05-12-2004 13:00									#31
	Re: MOO1 Final War Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: in a side note, I wasn't conquered that game. I was hounded down to a small, poor planet, which was then destroyed by a comet. How humiliating.....

Wow, they ARE bad omens.

Anyway, I love small maps because of the hard-fought nature of these games. You're not fielding technological terrors by the time you get in your first long hard slog of a war, and even with a good start, you're not much larger than your neighbors. And if you lose the vote, you stand a chance of winning.

My favorite games of MOO1 are those in which you get in a fight with your neighbor over what would be your third planet, and it changes hands a few times. You end up fighting with the basic, aptly named Fighter, or barely upgraded medium ships.

	05-12-2004 19:53									#32
	Full PM-box? Change here!

another thing about small maps is I have never seen the high council be undecided long enough for someone to take orion. there just aren't enough ships or high enough tech to do it. I have seen the first council vote take place as quickly as 40 years after the start of the game. In that game I just described as alks vs. darloks, they voted him in as high master only 75 years into the game!
that kind of situation makes you scramble.

the sakkras and I were fighting over my second planet for a bit, which I didn't get, since they were beyond my 5 parsec range, and when I spied on them later on, they still didn't have the requisite fuel cells. What, did they put reserve tanks on their colony transports or something?

	05-12-2004 23:01									#33
	Increase the size of your Attachments

I have seen them make a colony ship out of a huge design to fit the reserve in very early, before construction kicked in enough to let it fit in a large.

	06-12-2004 13:52									#34
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I've done the same thing a couple of times out of desperation.

	06-12-2004 14:47									#35
	Remove this text

funny thing was, I never saw any of their ships, just some troop transports.

	11-12-2004 17:53									#36
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

quote: Originally posted by da_hal there was a trick to getting out of final war, i forget exactly. i think if you eliminate the winner, and then cause revolts in the remaining players, it "forgets" that you lost the vote.

Doesn't Work. At least not in 1.3. I played as the darloks recently and saw them vote in the meklars as high master. I went and knocked them down to one planet each, and when everything had been researched, I took the meklars world and caused revolutions on the other 3 ( the last one having been wiped out by a space crystal). It took about 40 turns to get them all to revolt simultaneously, but I did it, and they were all still joined against me.

BTW, speaking of the space crystal, I have seen a bug where you can't atmosphere terraform worlds that have been radiated by the space crystal/space amoeba. Sometimes. I had one game where I took orion after it was ravaged by a crystal, and it stayed small and radiated.