15-07-2003 21:42									#1
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Hi,

I was speaking with Blackice and he mentioned there is a solution to the WIN2000 problem for playing/saving MP games of CTP. Does anyone know what the solution is? It is getting really frustrating not being able to host and save games.

Thanks,
yoda

	16-07-2003 08:37									#2
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Hi Yoda,

What did Blackice say? He usually has the solution to these types of problems.

One of these days, if you get your system working again, we should finish our game! Or start a new one. You are still king of the hill

	16-07-2003 08:40									#3
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Rickety has this solution RICK could you guide the man though this?

	17-07-2003 06:44									#4
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Your dsl using pppoe right?

If so go here for the fix:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];q273587

I am sure that is your cure, if not let me know.

	17-07-2003 18:42									#5
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quote: Originally posted by blackice Rickety has this solution RICK could you guide the man though this?

Are you referring to the turnloop gamesave thingy? I never mastered it. Other than that, I'm not sure what you're talking about

	17-07-2003 18:59									#6
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I hope I have the right person?

Do you have win2k on your system?
If so how did you enable the network protocals to allow hosting and joining games in win2k?

	17-07-2003 19:03									#7
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Ah, now I know what you're talking about. It was a problem with my router's firewall, or at least, something to do with my lan. I did a work around in the end. I don't think that's yoda's problem though.

	17-07-2003 21:36									#8
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quote: Originally posted by ricketyclik Ah, now I know what you're talking about. It was a problem with my router's firewall, or at least, something to do with my lan. I did a work around in the end. I don't think that's yoda's problem though.

Actually, I have two problems. The first is a win2000 save problem. When I reload, it always comes up saying "scenario not found".

The second is my hardware firewall. To get around it, I disconnect the firewall. I am using a DLink701 router/firewall. I tried opening up 21000 to 21300 UDP ports, but it didn't help. With the firewall up, I can't enter the NL library or join games.

Thanks for any help.
yoda

	18-07-2003 08:51									#9
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I am sure it is the same problem Yoda you should let Rick guide you through the network settings to enable win2k first. Once online and gaming I will help with the dlink ok?

I f you remember Rick your win2k network settings enough to get Yoda active I am sure I can rip though the dlink, mind you with your help it could be both problems solved in one shot.

Would you mind helping?

	18-07-2003 09:27									#10
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I think the scenario not found problem is related to the game setup. If you save a game someone else started with a scenario that you don't have? I'm at work, so I'll investigate my network settings when I get home.

With the router (mine's a DLink too), the only solution I found was to bypass the computer with CtP (and other on-line games) around the router firewall (I've forgotten the terminology for that) and run a software firewall on it. The DLink firewall settings just didn't let it happen. If you have a better way Blackice, I would be very happy to know it

	18-07-2003 10:27									#11
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Back to the dlink 701 bad news Yoda it only allows a few ports to be open at a time so online gaming with that router and CTP is not going to be easy.

The best bet is zone alarm and 1 turn off the dlink firewall...

	19-07-2003 05:38									#12
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On my DLink (704P) you can set up a DMZ (Demilitarised Zone) to on the computer you play CtP from, which allows the DLink firewall to remain intact for any other pc's connected to it.

	19-07-2003 08:08									#13
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Not this one 2 ports maximum welcome to the new age of security...

Well maybe just get him going with the 2000 bit and we'll see what we can do about the dlink.

	19-07-2003 10:31									#14
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I'm not sure quite what you're looking for with the Win2K thing. I can't recall having to adjust anything

	30-07-2003 04:16									#15
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quote: Originally posted by ricketyclik I'm not sure quite what you're looking for with the Win2K thing. I can't recall having to adjust anything

I can save a win2k MP game as a single player with AI, but any MP save with another player comes up with "scenario not found". I sure hope someone has the answer cause I really don't want to have to go back to win98.

yoda

	31-07-2003 03:17									#16
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Yoda

I had same problem

I had NO SCENARIOS WHATSOEVER on my PC...I could never save a MP game and reload it without "No Scenraio Found"

I had WINXp

How did I solve this?

Got rid of WINXP and installed WIN98SE..problemo Solved!

Good Luck

PS

I tried making CTP compatible..didnt work

just a little feedback is all!



Peace

Grandpa Troll

	31-08-2003 22:04									#17
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quote: Originally posted by blackice Back to the dlink 701 bad news Yoda it only allows a few ports to be open at a time so online gaming with that router and CTP is not going to be easy. The best bet is zone alarm and 1 turn off the dlink firewall...

Ok, I changed the firewall from the 701 to a DL 604. I openned ports 21000-21300 UDP but it still seems to have a problem. Any ideas?

	31-08-2003 22:56									#18
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You have to open your network protocals and allow udp to go through.

That should do it.

	31-08-2003 23:01									#19
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I was trying to use a d-link to play RON on game-spy.
It actually did work. However, whenever the power goes off, or I don't hold my head at the right angle, or the moon is full, it quits working at all. Can't get it to talk to my ISP for love nor money. A few times after futzing with it for about a day straight, it will unexplicably start working until next time something happens. I finally got tired of it and just disconnected it.

Anybody have any idea what that could be?

	31-08-2003 23:03									#20
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Yoda just joined a game with me then had to go for a family barbecue I believe..so it seems to work..at least the joing part of his problem

Peace

Grandpa Toll

	01-09-2003 18:11									#21
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Sounds good so far Troll. You gaming today?

Checkmate check for a firmware update or patch, apply it. If that does not work it is defective.

	01-09-2003 19:30									#22
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quote: Originally posted by blackice Sounds good so far Troll. You gaming today? Checkmate check for a firmware update or patch, apply it. If that does not work it is defective.

Yes..I been on about 45 minutes...

No one on...

Ill check back from time to time

Peace

Grandpa Troll