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Frank Johnson
Prince
Houston, TX
Jan 1970
time: 23:13
22-03-2001 01:58
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Give me the map Got spare money?


Using a "Customized Random Map" (wet,dry,islands,contients,ages) is not cheating reguardless of the opponents knowledge of the map. In that case its the opponents burden to ask the settings and leave before hand if they offend them in some way.

Using any "Premade" map is without informing the opponents of the map is strictly illegal. Even a premade random map is questionable because it lends its self to one or more players having predetermined knowledge of the board. Even use of a "3rd party map" must be discussed before play.


Let me just take time to say I'm worried about the way the threads on this board are heading. I want more trash talk about games, and less trash talk about people. The atmosphere being created in some cases in not good for MY HAPPY LITTLE GAMING COMMUNITY. One of these days I just may have to go old testiment on y'all and it won't be my fault cause you've been warned. No matter how bad you are, how eternal you think you are, how skilled you are, I don't care...don't take part in such activities that I feel are destructive to my little corner of the Civ2 world, to do so is to bring my holy wrath on you. You hear me? I really don't care...I'll make you into NOTHING, I can and will, don't mess with my league from growing and being a happy, fun place to be!

BTW Give me the map, and the rest of you shut up unless you have something neat to say about a game.
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Frank Johnson (edited March 21, 2001).]</font>

The Barbarian
Chieftain
Everywhere,yet nowhere
Jan 2001
time: 05:13
22-03-2001 02:25
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Thank you Frank. I always customize my world when I host and I was wondering if I was a"cheater".I have never liked what the world was like when I randomized settings.If its just a zone game I usually dont say too much about settings other than king med 2x2x but when others ask,which is seldom I tell them the rest of the settings.When in a league game when I host I will ask others what settings they prefer and then we come to an agreement.Occasionlly there may be someone who wont play on the settings agreed upon by the majority and they will decide not to play which is fine.At least they know what to expect.I love to play this game because of the interaction between people but I also enjoy the competition of playing against others. I still dont understand why a few want to come on and cheat,as it seems it would be rather boring after awhile winning all your games due to your"skills".If there is no challenge,there is no fun in my opinion.

SlowwHand
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22-03-2001 02:56
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One should not have to have a 10 page list of negotiated points before playing a League game. The idea is asinine.
You mis-speak if you say that making a custom map, where you know the land mass specifics, is not cheating.
It most certainly is, if those facts are not presented to all.


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"It's In The Way That You Use It."

Tuatha De Danann Tribe
http://www.geocities.com/boann7/

markusf
King

Oct 1999
time: 05:13
22-03-2001 03:01
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<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Frank Johnson on 03-21-2001 03:58 PM</font>
Using a "Customized Random Map" (wet,dry,islands,contients,ages) is not cheating reguardless of the opponents knowledge of the map. <font size=1 face=Arial color=666666>[This message has been edited by Frank Johnson (edited March 21, 2001).]</font>
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>

I think that says it pretty clearly. Who hosted that first game? It seems everyone is saying you actually hosted it.....

Kuja
Warlord
in your mouth
Feb 2001
time: 05:13
22-03-2001 03:12
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ya hear that slowwhand and everyone else? flaming an individual without proof is a major offense, so you'd better heed frank's warning. as for the tribe game, i can't even remember who hosted anymore. i am pretty sure i gave in to slowwhands demands to host, and he set up the game. if you want another, just ask, the dark archons are afraid to play nobody.

Bergman
Warlord
Sweden
May 1999
time: 05:13
22-03-2001 03:17
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I agree totally with u Frank! Its posts like these here that makes people really quit playing in the league, no positive responses only accusations all over. Why cant we just be friends and wtf dont play people u see as liars/cheaters and plz dont confront em either no matter what they say.

It would be nice if u really could get rid of people offending others all the time, i think everyone have had their chance of improving their manners while growing up, if they cant succed on that point, plz dont let em come here only to make fun of, poking, calling people names.


suas333
Prince
Brooklyn, NY, U.S
Feb 2000
time: 05:13
22-03-2001 03:29
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Nice job Frank. I agree with you about the maps absolutely.

Bergman
Warlord
Sweden
May 1999
time: 05:13
22-03-2001 03:30
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Every Topic gets infected with bull**** talk. Posts that starts out in a wonderful way like "Tell us about ur tribe" gets infected by posts like this one

"Now go get that thing we call a dictionary and look it up. If you have anymore trouble with spelling and pronunciation message me and I'll try to help you."

hehe i kinda like that one anyways

This was a nice example of a post, most of em are worse.
And the subject is no more. Just civers offending one another.

SlowwHand
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22-03-2001 03:42
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<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Kuja on 03-21-2001 05:12 PM</font>
ya hear that slowwhand and everyone else? flaming an individual without proof is a major offense, so you'd better heed frank's warning. as for the tribe game, i can't even remember who hosted anymore. i am pretty sure i gave in to slowwhands demands to host, and he set up the game. if you want another, just ask, the dark archons are afraid to play nobody.
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>

You're a liar.
I demand an immediate rematch, and I will host.
I suggest tonight. 7:00 Central.
Tuatha De Danann will now play by the rules that you deem fine.



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"It's In The Way That You Use It."

Tuatha De Danann Tribe
http://www.geocities.com/boann7/

Kuja
Warlord
in your mouth
Feb 2001
time: 05:13
22-03-2001 03:53
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sure thing, but you can't call us cheaters for something that you yourselves could have prevented from the start. being 100% clear on settings this time will hopefully prevent any other name calling and we can put closure to this matter.

Kuja
Warlord
in your mouth
Feb 2001
time: 05:13
22-03-2001 04:06
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this is rather short notice, but we will see, are you thinking of 2v2 or 3v3?

markusf
King

Oct 1999
time: 05:13
22-03-2001 04:30
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<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>You're a liar.
I demand an immediate rematch, and I will host.
I suggest tonight. 7:00 Central.
Tuatha De Danann will now play by the rules that you deem fine.


<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>


As leader I and I alone decide when and if we play matches. The first thing i want to know is who hosted the first game. If it turns out you hosted(like you did the other 2), then that means everything you keep yapping about isn't even remotely true.

Also me and bezerker will be playing another game tonight so we don't have time.

SlowwHand
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Not Yet
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22-03-2001 04:40
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You're right Markusf. Not Kuja's call to make.
Yet, I think he does other things you wouldn't particualarly agree with.
Kuja hosted the first session.
I hosted the second, and I THINK Darflex hosted the 3rd. I don't know for sure, because I wasn't playing. Berzerker was however.
Anything after the first session and the start is a mute point, and I'm not going to concern myself with it any more.
I have the answer.

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"It's In The Way That You Use It."

Tuatha De Danann Tribe
http://www.geocities.com/boann7/
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by SlowwHand (edited March 21, 2001).]</font>

KhanMan
Prince
Fort Worth, Texas, USA
Jan 1970
time: 05:13
22-03-2001 11:38 | www
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I was there for the first game, and Kuja hosted. I protested to my tribemates, pointing out the questionable past acts of certain members of the opposing side, but the dagda decided not to force the issue then.

That said, if the game is finished, I would like all players to declare their passwords, so we can check for other "anomolies".

-KhanMan, Archer of Tuatha
(who has a save for every turn of the first session, if anyone is interested)

UpInFlames
Warlord
hmmmm.....
Aug 2000
time: 00:13
23-03-2001 02:05 | www
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Khan, are u saying that me and jedi are cheaters too? Your whole tribe is fu**ed up. Sloww is prancing around like the fairy he is saying that I am like a convicted criminal of cheating. Name one time I have cheated. It obviously hasn't been in league because my record blows, if I cheated I would win everytime.....

cavebear
Emperor
of the Pleistocene
Oct 1999
time: 00:13
23-03-2001 06:56
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Frank - Thank you for the well-defined difference in the 2 kinds of starting maps. It matters. If someone creates a map at the time of the game start, and chooses some settings, I see no problem, though it would be better if the host then announced those settings. But a map which has been created beforehand and examined by the host is not the same. I can't see any logical reason why looking at a map before the game starts is much different than looking at the whole map between sessions.

And, BTW, I have always said that the only workable form of government is a benevolent tyranny. That goes double for websites. Do what you have to do; things seem to be getting completely out of hand from the view down here in the trenches. A few too many people seem to think that Apolyton cannot survive without them.

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KhanMan
Prince
Fort Worth, Texas, USA
Jan 1970
time: 05:13
28-03-2001 11:54 | www
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Up-I have not accused you of cheating. Same holds true of Jedi.

I have, however, accused Eyes of cheating. Kuja is suspect, from the number of grey things that happened during the first session. These are the two tribemates I refer to.

The reason I asked, and ask for still, the passwords, is that this alone will prove who did, OR DID NOT DO, what.

-KhanMan

Kuja
Warlord
in your mouth
Feb 2001
time: 05:13
28-03-2001 16:38
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what civs passwords do you still need? i didn't password my civ (the mongols) during the first two sessions i played. so that civ shouldn't be passworded unless whoever took over for me used one.

UpInFlames
Warlord
hmmmm.....
Aug 2000
time: 00:13
29-03-2001 04:04 | www
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My civ isn't passworded

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