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Spartan_RawB
Warlord
Kingston
Mar 2001
time: 05:13
28-03-2001 13:28
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Fascists in Zone and League Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2


Recently, a fascist named PanzerKampf has come on the Zone and is causing a ruckus, to the displeasurement of all. Just a few examples of his ranting, some graphic in violent nature: "Animals don't belong in school with whites," "I'm wanna smash them heads on an asphalt," and so on and so forth. The typical reply from the authorities is to ignore him, but when he is right there in front of our faces it's somewhat difficult, or perhaps not morally responsible, to do just that.

Historically, appeasement (i.e. ignoring) fanatics has caused more bad than good. What the British and Americans did by following the appeasement diplomacy was to give Hitler a chance to take over a several nations unchallenged. When trouble is in the air, it's sometimes best to confront it and take firm action to announce that such behaviour simply is not acceptable and will not be tolerated.

Now, before all the free-speech activists jump on my case, I'd like to state for the record that I am not opposed to free-speech. What I am opposed to, and what is illegal and criminal by Canadian law, is inciting hatred against certain groups. On more than one occasion, PanzerKampf has incited hatred against Jewish people and blacks, denied the Holocaust, and spoke freely of violent tendencies. Six million people who were murdered, whose bodies were stacked on top of each other in heaps, deserve just a little more respect than what Gameleague has afforded them.

It was me who first noticed the registration of the Fascist Brotherhood tribe and was concerned about it. I anticipated that allowing the registration of such a group would draw people of similar nature to Gameleague and make it unpleasant for all.

Frank, you've said on previous occasions that you will remove people from Gameleague if they spite you, if they cause a ruckus for the displeasurement of all. Yet, you refuse to take action against fascists who are, at best, causing a ruckus for Gameleague. Such ambivalence is morally questionable, if not just plain, for the lack of a better word, stupid.

Don't say the warning wasn't there when Gameleague is subject to legal and lobby action from political groups.

DankMaster
Warlord
Oak Park MI
Aug 2000
time: 05:13
28-03-2001 16:24
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Full PM-box? Change here!


Your new here aren't you?.....he's been around for awhile he just rears his ugly head every so offten. Just ignore him and he will go away. Once again as the only Jew here I say let him be. History has proved to us that morons like that die off (hopefuly without ever reproducing). The more you tell him he is wrong and a idoit the more he will come back to stir the pot....heheeh had to throw in that word.....Any how he'll probally die in a horrible truck accident with a Pabst Blue Ribbon between his legs on his way to a Klan meeting, thus removing himself from the gene pool because he is leaving a ring!!!!!!!!

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DankMaster, 1st

Frank Johnson
Prince
Houston, TX
Jan 1970
time: 23:13
29-03-2001 01:04
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Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution


Althought we have more flamers and lamers on these boards than any league would require, we really don't have any problem with nazis in here. In fact, that tribe is more likely to be deleted soon due to inactivity, not hateful activity.

vlad
King
Of Nanaimo British Columbia
Dec 1999
time: 21:13
29-03-2001 06:26
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Inflate your Upload Space


See Spartan thats why life in the good ole USA is so wonderful. You have just as much right to hate jews and blacks and deny anything you want. On the same token you can hate anti-semites and make fun of brain dead hillbillies. Although your statistics are a bit off as now the estimated jews killed in WWII is about 4 million. You tend to forget about the 10x amount of others who died in WWII that you simulate everytime you play civ.Should we be worried about Russians and Chinese bringing legal action against gameleague? When you wish to change someones thoughts and actions that is censorship and that my friend is what must not be tolerated. If you find things so offensive simply do not play with those people or do not travel to those sites. How tough is that? Complain about how bad they are at civ, not what their morality is about.I certainly would never play a wargame where I couldn't be the Germans, so I guess I am a bad person too as are the other 10 million wargamers.

I am guessing your a kid Spartan,maybe you should get your parents permission before playing such a violent game and no more internet their are just too many bad people who might make you mad

cavebear
Emperor
of the Pleistocene
Oct 1999
time: 00:13
29-03-2001 08:29
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Increase the size of your Attachments


Spartan_RawB - Sometimes, the most effective way to deal with truly obnoxious dysfunctional reprobates is to beat them in fair competition. One good example of that was Jesse Owens proving himself to be the best athelete at the 1936 Olympic games in Munich.

alamo
Chieftain
Fredericton, NB, Canada
Oct 2000
time: 05:13
29-03-2001 11:19
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Funny story about Jesse Owens. Some dumb ass put out a website and called it offical. He said at those games Adolf was so impressed with Owens (a black dude for you who do not know) that he presented him with an offical Nazi swastika. I put it in my report and didn't discover his (and my) stupidity until the night before. Long night then.

And for all the good Canadian anti-hate lit laws do, we are the #1 producer of hate literature (volume wise.)

Nah! There's something to say the US isn't #1 at anymore. (Sadly)

Responding to him will make him more vocal. It's not like he is forcing you to read his messages. If he was outside your house I could understand, just leave the little homo-in-denial alone.

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alamo
Chieftain
Fredericton, NB, Canada
Oct 2000
time: 05:13
29-03-2001 11:23
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)


wait a min. didn't you put an almost identical post up that is still circulating?

Frank you could've just clicked delete and not have had to write anything. Show him ho pro censorship you are!

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DankMaster
Warlord
Oak Park MI
Aug 2000
time: 05:13
29-03-2001 17:14
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Put an end to popups!


Where do you get your numbers from?......6 million of my people were murdered by the Nazi's not 4 million......along with the countless others, Poles, chezs, chatholics, the list is endless.....

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Today is a good day to die!
DankMaster, 1st Elder Crusaders

vlad
King
Of Nanaimo British Columbia
Dec 1999
time: 21:13
29-03-2001 23:14
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Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2


Well Dank I don't wanna argue numbers, 50+ million people died,and they are all still dead, doesn't make any group a better or worse death. 6 million was a number reached by Israel after extracting information from nazi war criminals. the #'s were based on tabulations kept in 1 mans head. The ability for Germans,Russians and other Euro slave camps and death squads to differentiate jews from other races and ethnic groups of people is impossible.Hundreds of thousands of Ukranians were killed by roving death squads and called jews just to appease their leaders.How about if we just agree too many people died in WWII?

As far as civ and the idea of bad people, there is absolutely no difference between barbarian hordes being killed or religious people or a race of Egyptians.War sucks and it causes death, people that fight die and people that don't fight die.Again I say WAR SUCKS in real life. This isn't real life though, its a simple game of conquest and exploration, lets keep it that way.
On a side note the Panzer guy was in a game I played last night on the zone and honestly he sucks,I have played with Dank in the past and his jewish civ power is much greater than the facist panzer pig's

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