16-07-2003 09:08									#1
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Please note the free wine.

Cheers!

	16-07-2003 09:11									#2
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Nice!

	16-07-2003 09:11									#3
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Don't forget, Vox may want a piece of the action too!!

	16-07-2003 09:13									#4
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Hell, Neu Demogyptica might even want a piece of that action...

	16-07-2003 09:15									#5
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Its great fun to be on the sidelines this time around.

	16-07-2003 09:21									#6
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Arnelos, you seem to have forgotton something

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	16-07-2003 09:33									#7
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Panzer32 also forgot something. It's a shame I know his country better than him. Maybe I should come to reclaim the throne of GoW!

In any case, I don't want to scare off any potential Lego/ND/GS/Vox attack on GoW, but this must be known!

	16-07-2003 09:40									#8
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Wow, this is getting interesting quickly. It's a good thing we Voxians aren't in to all that war stuff.

	16-07-2003 09:49									#9
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Perhaps it's lucky that GoW had all that wine... a few drinks and she probably doesn't look all that bad.

	16-07-2003 18:11									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Aeson Perhaps it's lucky that GoW had all that wine... a few drinks and she probably doesn't look all that bad.

Note that the blonde bearded "woman" is the daughter of House Togas that was given to Panzer32 in marriage.

HISTORICAL SIDE NOTE:
The REAL reason GhengisFarb is no longer Emperor of GoW... hmmm..... ultimate power at the price of marrying the ugliest woman on Bob....... hmmm.......

(Panzer32 speaks up) "I'll do it! An ugly woman is better than no woman! I'll do it!"

GhengisFarb now understands why MrWhereItsAt likes the sheep..............

I would post a rebuttal to Arnie's "treasure map" but my computer is busy downloading updates for my Poser program, so it will have to wait.

Kudos on Arnie's return, we missed having a worthy adversary to trade dialogue with.

	17-07-2003 06:30									#11
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Warmonger Women...

Lydia, O Lydia,
Say have you met Lydia?
O Lydia the Taaaatoooooo-ed Lady!

And, when that's not bad enough...

Tonight, folks, we have 'The World's Tallest Midget' right next to 'The World's Smallest Giant'... And in the center ring is Priscilla the Monkey Girl!

(In other words, does anyone get the impression from these discussions of Chinese ladies that the whole country is a big circus?)

	17-07-2003 06:32									#12
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quote: Originally posted by History Guy Warmonger Women... Lydia, O Lydia, Say have you met Lydia? O Lydia the Taaaatoooooo-ed Lady! And, when that's not bad enough... Tonight, folks, we have 'The World's Tallest Midget' right next to 'The World's Smallest Giant'... And in the center ring is Priscilla the Monkey Girl! (In other words, does anyone get the impression from these discussions of Chinese ladies that the whole country is a big circus?)

If we're the circus, you're the concession stand.

"Step right up! Get your Silk on a Stick! Spices of all Flavors! Fried Ivory Tusks! Get your Fried Ivory Tusks!"

	17-07-2003 06:38									#13
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Ivory tusks? Take my word on that, they are bad. Our ancient alchemists used to try and turn them into a healthy snack for the whole family, but all of the average Spanish families selected to try them out died horribly slow and painful deaths...

Ah well. That's how it goes.

You Chinese won't like them either. Especially when they are half a world apart from your own lands and you haven't the guys to hold on to them.

Hey! Siddown! Here comes Jojo the Dog Boy!!

	20-07-2003 07:12									#14
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quote: Originally posted by History Guy Hey! Siddown! Here comes Jojo the Dog Boy!!

So that's your nickname for Lady Togas!

	21-07-2003 20:15									#15
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb "Step right up! Get your Silk on a Stick! Spices of all Flavors! Fried Ivory Tusks! Get your Fried Ivory Tusks!"

I finally understood why GoW is after RP... yeah it took a while, but hey, people can be slow in the weekend, no?

They're Chinese, and what is the only reason Chinese need ivory tusks for? Right: aphrodisiacs. Which I would need too if I had to marry women like that

GF, you know there are other solutions right? Garlic, crushed tiger bones, bird-nest soup,...

DeepO

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quote: Originally posted by DeepO GF, you know there are other solutions right? Garlic, crushed tiger bones, bird-nest soup,... DeepO

There are no tigers except Togas' Big Scary Cat which we have never found, no garlic, and GodKing refuses to trade us his Exotic Birds luxury.

	21-07-2003 23:36									#18
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If all else fails, you could always put a sac over her head. That is, if she isn't half male down there too

DeepO

	21-07-2003 23:52									#19
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quote: Originally posted by DeepO If all else fails, you could always put a sac over her head. That is, if she isn't half male down there too DeepO

listen to DeepO on this, he would know. Check for small packages.

	21-07-2003 23:58									#20
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hey, this is book-wisdom, not first hand experience!

(I'm far from Chinese, BTW)

DeepO

	22-07-2003 00:08									#21
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obviously, if you weren't I'd be guessing your opinion regarding chinese women would be different.

	22-07-2003 00:27									#22
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Exotic Birds.

Me? You must be joking. Of course, the plumage of those exotic birds is what must be meant…. But wait one.

In ancient Rome, a delicacy was the lightly fried tongue of flamingo. Kinda hard to take the tongue and not the rest of the bird…

In ancient Persia, they made a pastry out of “[a]n unknown bird, imported from lands beyond…” Clearly an indication that exotic birds were a traded commodity.

In the lands of the Inka, the Sapa Inka was crowned not with what we would consider a crown royal, but of something made with gold wire and decorated with a couple of parrot feathers.

The Aztec nobles wore cloaks made of feathers. Something the conquistadors commented about most profusely.

The nobles of Western Europe through the dark ages imported many exotic birds, at first to provide a splash of colour, as the feathers even in death rarely faded even after years. Then birds were brought in to make exotic dishes. Check the menus of Louis the IX (IIRC) and you will see many interesting recipes. Menageries of birds were almost common among the nobility up until Victorian times.

A popular sport among the wealthy was bird hunting – duck, pheasant, grouse, etc. Sure, you might consider some of these birds common, but not everybody has seen a duck, nor of the many species that are out there, many of which are brightly coloured.

So, if you want some birds, I am more than happy to trade them. Just ignore that bit of ectoplasm on the feathers….. Of course, the price is going to be relatively good also – just destroy a total of 6 population points of ND cities, 2 or 3 cities is all. A bargain for the deal. I would shake on it, but being dead and all it is not like you can actually touch my hand.

Ghost of GK

	22-07-2003 00:52									#23
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quote: Originally posted by GodKing The Aztec nobles wore cloaks made of feathers. Something the conquistadors commented about most profusely.

A little bit off topic, but still kind of strange... the bird Aztecs worshipped most were chickens, and indeed the conquistadores commented in great detail about them. Not because they were so exotic, but because the black chickens used in many rituals (eating them was considered blasphemy) were so common... everything else was very exotic. Which of course made them stand out.

Only a few years ago, it became common knowledge where these chickens came from: a Chinese armada had imported them in 1421, years before the first Europeans 'discovered' America.

So we have chickens being imported by Chinese, 'discovered' by conquistadores, and now the Chinese are asking them back?

DeepO

	22-07-2003 01:56									#24
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Lol, noone seriously beleives that the America's were 'discovered' so late. In fact the native Americans would have found it many years before

Nevertheless, Columbus was the first to widely publicise its existance in Europe and therefore gets the credit...

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*cough*

DeepO, 1421 is universally reknowned as one of the most untrustworthy history books on the market today. Menzies puts forward his theories with no real tangible evidence to support it. It's rather ridiculous. Take it from a history guy, don't cite 1421...

All my best,
History Guy,
A History Guy

	22-07-2003 02:39									#26
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[talk-show host voice & pose]
"So, who did discover America? We'll find out after these messages. Don't go away!" *audience applauds*

	22-07-2003 03:01									#27
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Ah, I grant you that, History guy... but at least his explanation of events is more plausable then the reports of Atlantis or aliens being responsible for the found maps (e.g. the Pirii Reis map).

He is not the only source, though... there are also more academic sources which basically mention the same things, it's just that Menzies brought it all together in some sort of novel like book. I still like it, even if it may not be the most accurate source

(BTW, where did the chickens came from then? Egypt? )

DeepO

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quote: Originally posted by redstar1 Nevertheless, Columbus was the first to widely publicise its existance in Europe and therefore gets the credit...

Columbus, the forerunner of Bill Gates, the Hype-master of the Spanish Main.

"The Americas, yeah I discovered them, don't know why they didn't name em after me. Don't know where the people came from, but if you want a piece of the action all you gotta do is sign this licensing agreement........."