16-07-2003 16:10									#1
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Draft Pact Document Version 2

1.0 Conditions
1.1 - This is intended to be a permanent pact and must take priority to other alliances. The two factions are aiming for a joint victory.
1.2 - Sovereignty of each faction’s starting continent. Bases or crawlers cannot use the other faction’s continent.
1.3 - Shared tech. Both factions can get any tech from the other at any time they choose.
1.4 - Shared Comm links. Both factions can get any comm frequency at any time they choose.
1.5 - Shared world maps.
1.6 - An ambassador from each faction is allowed into the other faction’s forum. This will help each faction understand the other’s concerns and arguments. The ambassador goes under a different name to keep the pact secret initially.
1.7 - Units in the other faction’s territory must be withdrawn if requested.
1.8 - Factions are allowed differing foreign policy. However, each faction’s foreign policy should be transparent to the other faction.
1.9 - When trading of units, techs, comm frequencies and other useful information with a faction that is an enemy of either Drones or the Hive, the other faction must agree to the exchange.

2.0 Issues that can be addressed during course of the pact
2.1 - The initial terms of the pact can be amended by an agreement from both factions.
2.2 - Connecting the two starting continents requires approval from both factions. Pre land raising borders will continue to hold in the agreement of territorial rights.
2.3 - Spoils of war should be determined beforehand where possible.
2.4 - Important issues not covered by the pact or inadequately covered are addressed by a 1 faction 1 vote system. If the two decisions differ the factions will agree to disagree.
2.5 - Issues of lesser importance can determined by (hive percentage vote * 0.5) + (drone percentage vote * 0.5). Either the hive chairman or drone foreman can decide at any time whether an issue is important.

3.0 Expected Behaviour
3.1 - Expected behaviour is not a rule, just a recommendation.
3.2 - Both drones and hive should send reinforcements in the event of an invasion of the home continent.
3.3 - Research should be pursued together.
3.4 - The pact and terms of the pact should remain hidden as long as possible to reduce undue attention from the other factions.
3.5 - The hive and drones should attempt to assist each other in war.
3.6 - The hive and drones should have a unified front in their diplomatic dealing with other factions.
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I've been working on polishing the document and have been thankful for all the feedback that has been recieved. I don't expect for this document to be approved yet. I think there still needs to be more discussion.

I would like to send this update to the drones sometime. As the Version 1 they have is far too strict in retrospect. I wasn't expecting to send the Version 1 pact document yesterday and I was shocked at how shoddy it was when I looked at it today. I'm embrassed to say it was all because of a communication error.

If the drones decide to pact. I expect that we'll go through a few more drafts after this one as the drones might ask for adjustments.

Kody

Last edited by Kody on 17-07-2003 at 11:07

	16-07-2003 18:14									#2
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quote: 3.6 - The hive and drones should attempt to maintain a non-conflicting stance towards other factions.

....no, that won't work. As two builder factions our best chance of winning is by conquest...that is what builder factions do (that has been the path I have been trying to lead the hive down... see googlies "why they are scared of us" post in drone negotiations). This pact should be, in my opinion, about helping each other in war, not trying to win peacefully.

- Rokossovky

	16-07-2003 18:37									#3
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Thanks Marshal for pointing this out.

What I actually meant was "the hive and drones should attempt have a unified diplomatic stance". I'll fix that right away.

"3.6 - The hive and drones should have a unified front in their diplomatic dealing with other factions."

Kody

Last edited by Kody on 16-07-2003 at 18:44

	16-07-2003 20:26									#4
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I like this version much better. Clause 2.1 may need to be changed to "if approved by both factions" so that it is more losely defined than the 70% requirement.

Other than that I don't have any edit so far. However, I recommend not to send it out yet. We should wait for Drones' response first. This document also needs to be looked at by more people and in more time. Sometimes when you look at something a second time you may find something that you didn't think off when you first look at it. So I recommend no release of any document until approved by the PAC and CCC.

	17-07-2003 06:45									#5
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The main reason, I'll state again, for wanting to send it out is because they already have the document version 1 and they will be making decisions based on what's in there. I'm sorry, but I misunderstood some instructions, and sent it out before even I was ready to send it.

Now if you look at how bad document one was and think of what happens if they're making decisions on it. I think you'll want to send document 2 out soon too.

Kody