24-07-2003 17:04									#31
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If some lurker would prefer to be a Barbarian I would be willing to be a Citystate leader. I didn't want to be on the Citystate side since the bulk of the DemoGame people hate me (I figured that would make me a good Barbarian) but since there seems to be a shortage of leaders I'd be willing to switch until someone else came along.

	24-07-2003 19:17									#32
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Like I said, GF, I'd be willing to be one of the barbs. I don't know if you were counting me in your original tally or not.

	24-07-2003 19:27									#33
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Here's what I'm working with currently:

Potential Barbarian Leaders:
GhengisFarb - the GhengisBarbs
redstar1 - the northern Builder Barbs
FrustratedPoet - the Barbarian Bards
ZargonX - the southern Builder Barbs

Potential Citystate Citizens
Egypt
UnOrthOdOx - Willing to run as leader

Rome
Sir Ralph aka Ralphius Ceasar

Greece

Carthage

Generic Citizens
Octavian X
Kloreep - the Not Quite So Willing as Sir Ralph to be Leader

	24-07-2003 20:32									#34
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet You wrote a nice long post detailing some good reasons why the Barbs might be far too weak to make this idea viable and then suggested three ways to make the City States much stronger? I'm confused....

GF wanted the barbs to be a better AI but did not want them to be too powerful since the citystates can not build settlers. I was suggesting alternatives to the tech restriction, not additions to it. I think some of the alternatives would provide less of a handicap to the Barbs than the tech restriciton will.

	24-07-2003 20:38									#35
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We could allow the Barbs to trade techs. The Citystates will start right next to one another and have contact virtually from the beginning of the game so they should easily maintain a tech advantage over the Barbs.

I could also seeing giving the four Citystate Civs the Mapmaking tech from the beginning.

	28-07-2003 14:54									#36
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bump?

	28-07-2003 15:06									#37
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We could declare it a PBEM instead of a DG and get it already running.

	28-07-2003 15:13									#38
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Yeah, if Octavian X and Kloreep are willing to do so.

	28-07-2003 15:16									#39
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We had a discussion about such a game in the PBEM forum, and CerberusIV and ormuzd (IIRC) expressed their interest. If OctavianX and/or Kloreep deny, perhaps we could ask 1 or 2 of them?

	28-07-2003 15:48									#40
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Sure, sounds great, if they would be leaders there may still be a chance to play this the way we originally intended.

	29-07-2003 13:25									#41
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I posted this idea at the CFC PBEM forum some time ago about this game. A few people expressed interest. I'll contact them as well...