17-07-2003 17:44									#1
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Is the President HIGH!?! I mean, only that can explain the incredible lie he told Tuesday.

". . . We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in. And, therefore, after a reasonable request, we decided to remove him from power. . . ." Excuse me

Does anyone else here remember Hussein not letting the inspectors in?

Full press release. It's in the last paragraph. Apparently he looked right at Kofi Anan as he said it, too.

	17-07-2003 17:47									#2
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I think he means that Hussein didn't cooperate fully with them.

	17-07-2003 17:50									#3
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That's what he should have said then.

	17-07-2003 17:51									#4
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This is Bush.

	17-07-2003 17:56									#5
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Bush is a liar. He lied before the war, he lied during the war, it's not much suprise that he's still lying after the war. It's a pity George Sr didn't use birth control.

	17-07-2003 17:57									#6
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Does anyone else here remember Hussein not letting the inspectors in?

I seem to remember them being kicked out for a few years. What exactly was the cause for them getting back in again?

	17-07-2003 18:05									#7
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Good point.

	17-07-2003 18:26									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber I seem to remember them being kicked out for a few years.

Yes, for spying.

	17-07-2003 18:42									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Yes, for spying.

quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Again, Saddam-apologist bullshit. Explain how openly identified Americans, traveling with Iraqi escorts everywhere they went, would be able to "spy" on anything at all? Especially, in that their jobs (as known to everyone) was to report everything they saw publicly, via UNSCOM's reports to the UNSC? What the **** were they gonna find with their Iraqi escorts tagging along that was juicy enough to report to US intel, but wouldn't have been made available to the US and ever other UNSC member via their interim reports? The "spy" allegations were just a ruse by Saddam to kick one nationality out of UNSCOM teams, so Saddam could (in his mind) dictate conditions he knew UNSCOM would never accept, as a pretext for stopping inspections. Saddam was obligation to accept unrestricted inspections, and to make complete disclosures, as part of the cease fire agreement.

	17-07-2003 18:46									#10
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Here, I think we can agree that all this stuff is true:

(1) Bush has a tendancy to occasionally stretch the truth.

(2) However, he is also a dumbass, and whenever possible the dumbassedness shows instead of the lie.

	17-07-2003 19:11									#11
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quote: It's a pity George Sr didn't use birth control.

I thought Babs Bush's looks were supposed to be the Bush family birth control.

	17-07-2003 19:16									#12
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Why don't you get a new job at the Complaint Desk.
No, that won't work.
You have to listen to complaints there, not whine yourself.
Oh well. It was a thought.

	17-07-2003 19:44									#13
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* FrustratedPoet packs his bags for Cuba

	17-07-2003 19:50									#14
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He's so stupid.

	17-07-2003 21:46									#15
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I really wonder why the admin. and the neocons can;t just come out and say "it was never about, isnpections, the UN, or WMD's: it was all about remaking the ME into a more IUS friendly place! We were right, damn it, so get used to it!"

At least that way no one could ever accuse them of continuing to lie; only about their arrogance, and perhaps, their faulty ideology.

	17-07-2003 21:55									#16
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That would allow them to concentrate their efforts on their task and not on smoke and mirrors....

	17-07-2003 21:56									#17
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It was never about inspections, the Un, or WMD's. It was all about remaking the ME into a more US friendly place. We were right damn it! So get used to it!

Of course the pitiful inspections, the inability of the UN to do anything useful (like enforcing their resolutions), and the presence of WMD (Yes I know! I'm giving 6 months, remember?) all had a lot to do with us wanting the ME a little more US friendly.

Happy?

	18-07-2003 07:52									#18
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boo hoo Dubya lied.......Clinton lied.......Bush Sr. lied......Reagan lied........Carter lied...........Ford lied...........Nixon lied...........LBJ lied...........Kennedy lied..............etc etc etc Boo HOO....... All Politicians lie ...........Of course it all depends on Your Political Orientation

	18-07-2003 08:07									#19
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Hey! Carter never lied. I challenge that.

	18-07-2003 08:09									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Thoth Bush is a liar. He lied before the war, he lied during the war, it's not much suprise that he's still lying after the war. It's a pity George Sr didn't use birth control.

You crack me up!



Get off the drugs.

quote: Hey! Carter never lied. I challenge that.

Maybe you are right.. he only screwed up big time.

100-200 inspectors for a country the size of California? Face it liberals.. Saddam was playing a cat and mouse game here.

	18-07-2003 08:14									#21
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quote: 100-200 inspectors for a country the size of California? Face it liberals.. Saddam was playing a cat and mouse game here

yeah, now there are over 100k "inspectors" and they still haven't found sh1t.

	18-07-2003 08:16									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Sava yeah, now there are over 100k "inspectors" and they still haven't found sh1t.

Soldiers aren't all inspectors... and they will find **** soon enough. I will bet on that... there is no way in hell they will produce zero results. That is impossible and illogical. Give it time. Saddam had 12 years to prepare for this.

	18-07-2003 08:19									#23
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Fez,

The've looked everywhere. It's not going to happen.

	18-07-2003 08:21									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Fez, The've looked everywhere. It's not going to happen.

I really don't think so. These things could be taken out in the middle of desert and buried. And how the hell do you know? Was your information from the garbage the liberal media is trying to feed people (albeit failing)?

	18-07-2003 08:21									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Fez Soldiers aren't all inspectors... and they will find **** soon enough. I will bet on that... there is no way in hell they will produce zero results. That is impossible and illogical. Give it time. Saddam had 12 years to prepare for this.

The problem with your logic Fez is that NOTHING at all has been found. Not a thing.

The US claimed it's intelligence sources knew where they were, but couldn't say because it would endanger the sources...Surely the US would know if:

a) The intelligence sources were killed or
b) The weapons moved.

Oopsies Fezzie. Made another gaff again

	18-07-2003 08:25									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 The problem with your logic Fez is that NOTHING at all has been found. Not a thing. The US claimed it's intelligence sources knew where they were, but couldn't say because it would endanger the sources...Surely the US would know if: a) The intelligence sources were killed or b) The weapons moved. Oopsies Fezzie. Made another gaff again

No actually that doesn't make sense.

I will agree to disagree on this matter, because I am not going to get into this.

You don't know anything about it because you are not there and neither am I. I said a month or two ago, that it would take at least six - eight months to fully check everything.

	18-07-2003 08:29									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 The problem with your logic Fez is that NOTHING at all has been found. Not a thing.

Actually they have. Just not in the amounts they claimed so far.

	18-07-2003 08:49									#28
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quote: Originally posted by GePap I really wonder why the admin. ...

You mean those guys?

	18-07-2003 08:50									#29
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They have found somehting more deadly than WMD.............There called Guerrillas

	18-07-2003 08:51									#30
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Serb, are you high?