18-07-2003 09:20									#1
	Netscape: An End of an Era Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

Though it's been long overdue for Netscape to step aside, and I haven't used it for over 3 years, I'll always have a sentimental place in my heart and soul for a tool that billions of us spent many hours with as the world transformed itself into an exciting, up and down, new era .

As the New Economy finally puts the last remnants of itself aside, so too, goes the vanguard of the Revolution -- Netscape.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/intern...reut/index.html

	18-07-2003 09:21									#2
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So long Netscape, you were the browser I grew up with.

	18-07-2003 09:23									#3
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They sucked, they suck, they will continue to suck.

It's about goddamned time that crappy browser was kicked to the curb.

Opera all the way!

	18-07-2003 09:26									#4
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I switched to Netscape from Mosaic and used it until I switched to Mozilla (happily, I might add--Mozilla rocks!). 6 or 7 years, I guess.

RIP Netscape.

	18-07-2003 09:28									#5
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Mozilla's okay. It's a little slow. I'm curious about Firebird, since it's supposed to be leaner and quicker. I use Opera a lot in my accessiblity testing, but most most things, I just use IE. It's fast, and displays correctly.

	18-07-2003 09:29									#6
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There are still alot of employees at Netscape, but it sounds like they are pretty much going to be out the door.

AOL is giving Mozilla $2 million in funding and supposedly Mozilla is going to hire some of the people that got cut.

Though I don't use or see a need to use Mozilla anyway.

	18-07-2003 09:30									#7
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Netscape was the first browser that I used. At he time it was top of the line and had a huge market share. Just goes to show you what Gates can do if you go head to head with him

	18-07-2003 09:31									#8
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Yer one of those stinking Mac users, though. You have Sahara or whatever it is.


*chegitz is jealous.

	18-07-2003 09:31									#9
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One uses mozilla to show that you are a man-hating feminazi who also happens to dislike Microsoft.

	18-07-2003 09:32									#10
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO1003 Netscape was the first browser that I used. At he time it was top of the line and had a huge market share. Just goes to show you what Gates can do if you go head to head with him

The absolute WORST mistake a company can make is to tell Gates you are going to fight him.

You will lose. Every single time.

Only way to win is to go around...

	18-07-2003 09:32									#11
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quote: One uses mozilla to show that you are a man-hating feminazi who also happens to dislike Microsoft.

I didn't know DanS was a femi-nazi. Interesting.

	18-07-2003 09:33									#12
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quote: Originally posted by DarthVeda One uses mozilla to show that you are a man-hating feminazi who also happens to dislike Microsoft.

true

	18-07-2003 09:34									#13
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ever since aol bought netscape, i've shucked it in favor of mozilla.

mozilla doesn't install all those damned aol links everywhere.

	18-07-2003 09:35									#14
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and in any case, i prefer opera and konqueror, while still using ie and moz.

	18-07-2003 10:44									#15
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I know that MS is no longer making IE for the Macintosh. Something about the Mac OS environment being limiting or like that.

And now Netscape, the first browser I ever used, is going the way of the dodo bird. It's sad, in a way. When MS began bundling its browser with its OS, many folks predicted it was just a matter of time before NS died. And so it has come to pass.

Thank goodness for Safari ...

Gatekeeper

	18-07-2003 10:59									#16
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Netscape died because it was crap.

If it was a decent browser, people would still use it.

It's a combination of crap products and crap business decisions that killed them off. MS' bundling of IE played a part, because it forced browsers to be free and once 4.0 and 5.0 came around, completely showed up the shoddy, bloaty, and slow Netscape code.

Then they decided, brilliantly, to stew with the 4.x code for years while they recoded Netscape from scratch (Mozilla). That's all it took to give MS 90% marketshare.

I'm tired of people blaming Netscape's demise MS, Netscape died because it was a company who made repeated boneheaded business moves with an uncompetitive product. End of story.

	18-07-2003 11:06									#17
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quote: Netscape died because it was crap. If it was a decent browser, people would still use it.

'Bout time you showed up. I thought the corpse of Netscape was never going to get pissed on.

	18-07-2003 11:08									#18
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I hope its still alive with wounds severed as I piss on it.

You, too, should be pissed off for all the taxpayers money they wasted over the years.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

	18-07-2003 11:10									#19
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netscape was badly run.
it was a great browser for its time, but ran into coding limitations and the bad decisions were the final nail.
it definitively lost the wars when ie became better with version 5.
before, there was pretty good parity between the 4s, and netscape 3 was superior to ie 3 and below.

	18-07-2003 11:11									#20
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quote: You, too, should be pissed off for all the taxpayers money they wasted over the years.

I am. All that money wasted to prove Microsoft was abusing its OS monopoly, only to allow MS off the hook with a slap on the wrist. Good job, DOJ.

	18-07-2003 11:18									#21
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I said goodbye to Netscape when AOL bought it also. I switched to IE, but I didn't like it that much, and couldn't abide Messenger or whatever that mail program is. I switched to Mozilla, but it bugs me sometimes too. Still I like it better than IE, it's free, and it keeps the fire to MS's feet to continually improve their browser.

	18-07-2003 11:27									#22
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I lost my internet virginity with netscape.

so long

	19-07-2003 04:19									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Netscape died because it was crap.

Yep. That's also why MSIE6 is dead.

quote: If it was a decent browser, people would still use it.

I think you are overestimating people. A browser already ships with their OS. Why would they bother downloading a different one?

quote: Then they decided, brilliantly, to stew with the 4.x code for years while they recoded Netscape from scratch (Mozilla). That's all it took to give MS 90% marketshare.

That was the only feasible way of doing DOM right. Yes, they could have stuck with platform specific interfaces instead of XUL, but the engine did need a rewrite.