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ricketyclik
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Great Southern Land
Feb 2002
time: 15:29
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A CIVIII PBEM Game.
Players (in order of play):
Nuke Boy of the Egyptians - nukeboy1960_at_aol_dot_com
ricketyclik of the Chinese - ricketyclik_at_webone_dot_com_dot_au
Zalek of the Persians - zalek_at_interia_dot_pl
snotty of the Americans - snotty128 at hotmail dot com
superkozi of the Ottomans - superkozi at interia dot pl
Created by: ricketyclik
Settings:
Regular Map, all map variables set to the middle, pangea/archepelago?
Victory Conditions: Standard
Difficulty: Monarch
All of the above settings are open to discussion before we begin. Let me know your email addresses and tribe choices, and I'll edit them in.
Last edited by ricketyclik on 25-07-2003 at 16:16
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Sir Ralph
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Long live teh Schwampel!
Dec 2001
time: 06:29
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I don't want to spoil your game, but 2 bits of advice, or rather 2 questions:
- On the "largest" (meaning huge, 160x160) map, having only 8 civs, you have lots and lots of space and will be in REXing till fairly far into the medieval age. Significant portions of your empires will be completely corrupt. If you fight this by lowering corruption, your empire's core will be too productive and advances will flow too fast. This can even mean, that you're REXing till the industrial age, and have a big part of your cities still unimproved, when the clock says Steam Power. Is that really what you want?
- AI civs never have done any good in PBEM games. They are weak and make those players with adjacent AIs stronger. A player with no AI neighbor will have a serious disadvantage. Further, AI civs have the bad habit to violate borders at will and to whore around maps and techs. This can be a huge fun killer. Is that really what you want?
What I would recommend you is, play without AIs on a small map. Trust me, it's much more fun.
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Zalek
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Poland, Gorzow Wlkp.
Jul 2003
time: 06:29
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I suggest:
map size: not large - a one or even two level smaller map
not AI players
I get Persian civ
my email is zalek_at_interia_dot_pl
I suggest, we wait for one player more and start game.
I would like to be sure - we are going to play PtW, aren't we?
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Snotty
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I would be interested in getting in on this game, but only if we lose the AI. I solely play MP now as playing against humans has made me realize how little fun playing against the AI can be. I agree that your AI diplo skills would be tested but I find I have to take a much deeper aproach to my strategy when playing against humans as I can rely on the AI making stupid mistake after mistake. This isnt to say the AI is poor but it cannot hold up when placed beside a flesh and blood human opponant.
As for the map size I would come in the the 'less is more' side of the arguement. Map sizes have a recommended player size for a reason. Larger maps with less players can be fun but not when pbem forces it to take such an incredible amount of time.
So if after all that you still want me in my address is snotty128 at hotmail dot com. I am GMT+0 so place me in the order where I need to be.
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Zalek
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Poland, Gorzow Wlkp.
Jul 2003
time: 06:29
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So, what do you guys think about AI?
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Luk
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Wroclaw, Lower Silesia, Poland
Mar 1999
time: 06:29
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Im interested too to join this game... I propose to have 8 players with rather small map. We will meet each other very quickly and the game will start to be exciting very fast
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Zalek
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Poland, Gorzow Wlkp.
Jul 2003
time: 06:29
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Of course, I'm not interested in early war, too. But I think a medium map will be ok - a few place to setup your own faction and, in accurate time, a chance to contact with other players and try diplomatic skills
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Snotty
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This game does seem to be shaping up. Also I am not especially bothered by a 2 week wait.
Map: Regular
AI: No
GMT 0800-0900 + 1800-2300
And I will take the Americans as my civ.
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Snotty
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I would prefer continents are pangea as I am involved in another pbem archepelego game and would like something a bit different.
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Zalek
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Poland, Gorzow Wlkp.
Jul 2003
time: 06:29
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Oki, Superkozi's proposition (3 games at the beginning and after few turns of each, we vote for one to continue) is good, but like ricketyclik I think 25 turns is too much. I think we should play only few turns - 3 to 6. Opening turn only is better then nothing but I think a little bit more turns (e.g. 3 to 6) will be the best way for each player to decide, which game he/she choose to continoue.
My preferences:
map size - regular
map type - continents
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Snotty
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Rather amusingly I make the votes 2 for islands and 2 against, with 1 in the middle.
As for the 3 games thing, its a good idea. 3 turns, marks out of ten.
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19-07-2003 11:12
I'd like to hear the other players' on these issues.
. AI has only chance with human player, when has a great bonus (in higher difficult level) - eg. less shield to produce things in cities, less unhappy citizens etc - and that is why I don't play singles games in civ - even AI has those great advantages, is still stupid and can't be compare to human player.
I'll accept this 
I would prefer a standard or large map with 50-60% ocean. I would prefer the Americans or Egyptians. I'm not opposed to a few AI players. Monarch is fine for a difficulty level.
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