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Fedorov signs with Ducks

WebPosted Sat Jul 19 16:35:22 2003
CBC SPORTS ONLINE - The Mighty Ducks of Anaheim have reeled in free-agent centre Sergei Fedorov.

The flashy forward signed a five-year, $40 million US contract with the Ducks on Saturday.

The deal has two years guaranteed with the final three being Fedorov's option, according to Mighty Ducks spokesman Alex Gilchrist.


Fedorov has played his entire 13-year NHL career with the Detroit Red Wings, winning three Stanley Cups along the way. He became an unrestricted free agent on July 1.

Fedorov rejected a four-year, $40 million deal with the Wings earlier this year.

"I was trying to sign with Detroit but every time we came close we couldn't reach an agreement," said Fedorov. "Unfortunately, it did not happen.

"It was hard for me to understand. But it's not only a game now it's big business. A couple of years ago, I probably would have re-signed with Detroit but economic circumstances are different now."

The 33-year-old veteran should be expected to carry the offensive load for an Anaheim squad that lost Paul Kariya to free agency earlier this month. Kariya signed a one-year deal with the Colorado Avalanche.

Fedorov, the 1994 Hart Trophy winner, had 36 goals and 83 points last season in his most productive season since 1995-96. He has 400 goals, 554 assists and 954 points over 908 career games.

Fedorov joins an Anaheim side that also signed former Tampa forward Vinny Prospal to a five-year deal earlier this week.

The Ducks surprised the hockey world with an unexpected march to the Stanley Cup final last season.

Fedorov's departure is a big loss for the Red Wings, according to former Detroit teammate Darren McCarty.

"He's one of the most talented guys in the league," McCarty told Canadian Press. "He has the ability to change a game by himself."

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Wow. Awesome. Of all the teams he could have gone to, this probably makes me happiest.

And Prospal's no slouch, either. He was Tampa's top scorer last year, and that's on a team with Vinny Lecavalier AND Martin St. Louis!

Looks like Anaheim may actually be able to attempt a repeat visit this season.

That is, if they can get by the Oilers...

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FVCKING DVCKS.

Sorry, it took me too long to even begin liking the Kings in the 1st place.

I'd have to send you a letter bomb if you'd said it was Jagr, though.

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Federov is going to have a reality check. He's not playing with a Hall of Fame team anymore. If he stays healthy, I predict a dismal 25-35 goal season with the Ducks finishing out of playoff contention.

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Stupid move.

Fedorov at 36/37/38 years old is not going to be an $8 million player any more; hell, I'd say he isn't one now. Coming from the team that was so adamant that Paul Kariya was overpaid that they let him loose, this seems like the height of hypocracy.

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Fedorov at 36/37/38 years old is not going to be an $8 million player any more; hell, I'd say he isn't one now. Coming from the team that was so adamant that Paul Kariya was overpaid that they let him loose, this seems like the height of hypocracy.


They had two choices: pay Kariya 10mil, or pay Fedorov 8mil.

Considering Sergei's three times the player Paul is, I think they made the right choice. Paul is a great offensive forward, who's adequate on defense, and, as proven last post-season, is not terribly consistent.

Fedorov's an even better offensive forward, who's also a highly skilled checker (Bowman even played him on defense!), and who can make or break a game for the team.

Nothing's for certain, but I think Anaheim has made two very smart moves in aquiring Prospal and Fedorov with the money saved from Kariya.

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that's not what Colorado paid... and Federov isn't better than Kariya, offensively. Federov is perhaps a more physical player, but I doubt Federov is much better than Kariya defensively. Put Kariya on some of those Red Wings teams, and I suspect he performs comparably to Sir-gay. If I were creating a fantasy team, I'd take Federov over Kariya... but that's like choosing the Lexus over the Cadillac. And Federov is certainly not "three times the player Paul is".

Colorado got Kariya at 1.2 million or so... Anaheim paid 8 mil. Colorado got the better deal. The Ducks might get screwed if there's a lockout.

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Who... Karyia?

If that's the case... I'm sure he's better than a guy who helped his defending champion team get swept in the first round by the #7 seed.

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that's not what Colorado paid... and Federov isn't better than Kariya, offensively. Federov is perhaps a more physical player, but I doubt Federov is much better than Kariya defensively. Put Kariya on some of those Red Wings teams, and I suspect he performs comparably to Sir-gay. If I were creating a fantasy team, I'd take Federov over Kariya... but that's like choosing the Lexus over the Cadillac. And Federov is certainly not "three times the player Paul is".


Oh, but he is. Kariya is a fast, weak playmaker. Fedorov is a fast, tough, playmaker-power-forward-hybrid. Much better, says I.

And obviously, Kariya only accepted the 1.2 mil so he could have such a great chance at winning the championship. If he had stayed in Anaheim, he would never have accepted that sum; he'd have commanded at LEAST 9 mil.

Of course, it might just come down to personal preference, but I just think Fedorov's the player that will contribute more to his team.

And Fedorov AND Prospal? That combined package is definitely greater than Kariya.

Not to insult Kariya or anything (I'm sure he'll perform well with Teemu in Denver), but...

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Colorado got Kariya at 1.2 million or so... Anaheim paid 8 mil. Colorado got the better deal. The Ducks might get screwed if there's a lockout.


EVERYONE will get screwed if there is a lockout.

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Prospal is a pud... mediocre at best. I agree Federov is better, but just not as much as you made it seem. And plus... hockey is a team game, you need more than one player to make a difference. Kariya was the leader of that team... he was synonymous with the name "Ducks". It will be hard to replace that with a Russian primadonna who's best years are behind him.

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Prospal is a pud... mediocre at best.


He could flop, yeah, but he's got potential like a madman. I said this before, but: he was the number one scorer on a team with both Vinny Lecavalier and Marty St. Louis. That's somethin'!

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I agree Federov is better, but just not as much as you made it seem.


Point taken.

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And plus... hockey is a team game, you need more than one player to make a difference.


I agree completely. And Anaheim has a great team foundation (Carney, Rucchin, LeClerc, Giguere) to build on.

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Kariya was the leader of that team... he was synonymous with the name "Ducks". It will be hard to replace that with a Russian primadonna who's best years are behind him.


It's true that Kariya is well-known for being a Duck, and it'll be an adjustment without him. But it's not like he carried the Ducks to the finals or anything (Giguere and solid team play did that), and I'd even go so far as to say he was too inconsistent at clutch times.

If Fedorov can gel well with his new teammates, his best years are definitely ahead.

If not... then maybe Giguere can still carry them to the finals again, anyway.

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He could flop, yeah, but he's got potential like a madman. I said this before, but: he was the number one scorer on a team with both Vinny Lecavalier and Marty St. Louis. That's somethin'!
and how many Cups have they won?

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I agree completely. And Anaheim has a great team foundation (Carney, Rucchin, LeClerc, Giguere) to build on.
JBG is the key, Carney's and LeClerc's are a dime-a-dozen... Rucchin's a solid playmaker, but probably not even in the top-15 of centers.

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If not... then maybe Giguere can still carry them to the finals again, anyway.
nah, flash in the pan... the Ducks will go the way of the Florida Panthers of '96 and the Carolina Hurricanes of 2002.

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Yes! With Fedorov, they can finally pull off the flying V!!!! I knew Emilio had an ace up his sleeve!

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...and I suspect he performs comparably to Sir-gay. .


You spell it wrong, Sava.

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Serb: He's a Chicago fan, he's allowed to spell it that way .

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heh, sorry Serb, not a knock on Russians... I spelled it wrong on purpose because he played for Detroit, and I am a Chicago Blackhawks fan... Sir-gay meaning Sir of ... well... gayness. Which, unfortunately, is an insult in American society. You see Serb, American society is so bigoted that it turns normally inoquous terms into insults just to spite groups that don't conform to conservative social mores.

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F*ck you, Sava. My name is Sergei too.

Why the hell do you think my nick is Ser.B. ?

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F*ck you, Sava. My name is Sergei too.
haha Serb, calm yourself... this is about bashing a top player of a rival team... not making fun of russians

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Why the hell do you think my nick is Ser.B
I thought you were Serbian.

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I'm Siberian whose name is Sergei and whose family name starts with letter "B", you silly bear.

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I'm Siberian whose name is Sergei and whose family name starts with letter "B", you silly bear.
You should change your name to "SerB" then... I thought you were one of my countrymen...

Серб самозванец

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dammit I don't have cyrilic font!

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You should change your name to "SerB" then... I thought you were one of my countrymen...

Serb is easier to type.
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dammit I don't have cyrilic font!

Then how you typed this:
"Серб самозванец "
-Ot samozvanza slyshu.

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oh so you can read that... for some reason it come up as jibberish on my computer...

Сербы превосходят Российских собак

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Sergei is a Siberian whose family name starts with "B",
Sava is the Scapegoat, as happy as can be.
Imran is a Devil, Cinch might be a Flamer,
Veda should Gopher coprophagy.

I would never be lucky enough to be named 'Sergei'. If I had the last name Federov, my parents would have named me Ralph or Bertrand or something equally uncool, thus damning my nonexistent hockey career in its zygotic stages.

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oh so you can read that... for some reason it come up as jibberish on my computer...

Сербы превосходят Российских собак


"Serbs are superior in comparison with dogs of Russians. "

You are better than our dogs? Good for you.

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Numminen to Stars in three-team trade
WebPosted Tue Jul 22 17:06:52 2003
CBC SPORTS ONLINE - An era ended and a new one began for veteran defenceman Teppo Numminen on Tuesday.


Numminen, who has spent his entire 15-year NHL career with the Phoenix Coyotes/Winnipeg Jets organization, was dealt to the Dallas Stars as part of a three-way trade, which also saw defenceman Darryl Sydor moved to the Columbus Blue Jackets and centre Mike Sillinger shipped to the Phoenix Coyotes.

The Jackets acquired two-time all-star Sydor in exchange for Sillinger and a second-round draft pick in 2004.

The Stars then moved Sillinger to the Coyotes in exchange for Numminen, whose $4.5-million US contract for next season was too expensive for Phoenix.

The Coyotes also received a conditional draft pick from the Stars.

Numminen, 35, leaves the Coyotes as the franchise's leader in games played (1,098), and ranks first among defencemen in team history in goals (108), assists (426) and points (534).

He had six goals, 24 assists and an even-rating in 78 games last season.

"Teppo Numminen has literally been our franchise player," Coyotes general manager Mike Barnett said in a release. "He is a first-class individual. He has been an on-ice leader and a role model for all of our players.

"We will always remember his 15 years of service and dedication to this organization."

Numminen has been the team's captain for the past two seasons and has notched at least 30 points the last six seasons.

"Teppo Numminen is a talented player who adds veteran leadership and experience to our defensive corps," Stars GM Doug Armstrong said in a statement.

"He plays a solid game on both ends of the ice and is the consummate professional. We're very excited to add him to our team."

The Coyotes will save money in the deal as Sillinger is set to earn $1.8 million US next season.

The Jackets, who earlier this month signed free agents Todd Marchant and Trevor Letowski, added more to their payroll with Sydor due to earn $3.5 million next season.

Last season, Sydor recorded five goals and 31 assists with 40 penalty minutes and was plus-22 in 81 games with the Stars.

In 863 career games with the Stars and Los Angeles Kings, the 31-year-old Sydor has collected 82 goals and 323 assists for 405 points with 598 penalty minutes.

"Darryl Sydor is a perfect fit for our hockey club and I am ecstatic that we were able to bring him to Columbus," Blue Jackets GM Doug MacLean said in a statement.

"Not only is he an excellent puck mover and strong power play performer, but he is a winner having won a Memorial Cup championship in juniors and a Stanley Cup with the Stars."

Sillinger, 32, joined the Blue Jackets as a free agent prior to the 2001-02 season and registered 38 goals and 48 assists in 155 games with the club.

Sillinger has 153 goals and 221 assists in 753 career NHL games with Columbus, Ottawa, Florida, Tampa Bay, Philadelphia, Vancouver, Anaheim and Detroit.


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Columbus is shaping up to be a somewhat noteworthy team as of late... and Numminen is a good grab for the Stars, but he still ain't no Hatcher.

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American society is so bigoted that it turns normally inoquous terms into insults just to spite groups that don't conform to conservative social mores.


Which Sava perpetuates, so he really isn't that concerned about it .

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Imran is a Devil, Cinch might be a Flamer,
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