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A Michigan Department of Corrections internal review reveals that the man accused of killing his ex-wife and her children in their Pontiac home should not have been released from prison.

Officials said Daniel Franklin was released because of a coding error that failed to recognize he had committed new crimes after his arrest for a 1998 drug violation.

Corrections Department Director Patricia Caruso said Franklin was not eligible for parole under new sentencing laws that give judges more flexibility in sentencing drug offenders, eliminate mandatory minimum sentences and open the door for early parole.

A coding error listed Franklin as being imprisoned on a new offense, Caruso said. Instead, he should have been coded as a parole violator who committed a new crime, she said. That would have made him ineligible for early parole under the new laws.

Franklin committed new drug crimes just before the end of his parole in May 1998, Caruso said. However, he was not arrested for those crimes until June 9, 1998, after he was discharged from parole, she said.

Caruso said Robinson's family has been notified of the error and the department was asked to communicate with them through the family's lawyer.

When Franklin was paroled last month, it was about three years early. He shouldn't have been eligible for parole until 2006, Caruso said.

Franklin was released from prison on June 17. He is accused of stabbing to death his ex-wife, Machekia Robinson, 28, and her two children, Rockell Johnson, 10, and Teria Johnson, in their home on Starlight Street on June 22 -- five days after his release.

Family members of Robinson said they notified prison officials and Pontiac police of threatening e-mails that Franklin had apparently sent to his ex-wife from prison. The family said authorities failed to act on their warnings, Local 4 reported.

"I do feel a strong sense of failure by the criminal justice system. My sister had made a complaint with Machekia the day after the man was released. He came to the home, there was issues there; police turned their back to that," said James Robinson, Machekia's uncle.

Caruso said outgoing prison mail is not examined except in extreme circumstances and no one had notified the department that Franklin was sending threatening letters.

She also said the department is implementing a number of changes to prevent similar mistakes from happening. The department is conducting an audit of the more than 400 people who have been paroled under the new laws, she said.

State Rep. Hansen Clark -- a friend of the Robinson family -- said the department's internal investigation is not good enough, and he wants an external investigation of the department to take place, Local 4 reported.



Someone needs to loose their job over this. Convicts don't spend enough time in jail to begin with, we don't need to be letting them out by mistake.

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There you have it.
A perfect illustration for the need of the death penalty.

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Hell yes. Why wouldn't I be?
It illustrates to perfection that locking a murderer up guarantees not a thing.

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Sloww, remember, is from Texas; where they hang for looking funny...

Clerical error? That really helps promote the death penalty, it rather encourages it not to happen. Suks... He was probably screwing the clerk.

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Japher,

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There you have it.
A perfect illustration for the need of the death penalty.


What should he have gotten the death penalty for, Sloww? He hasn't been convicted of murder yet.

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And he proves he's not a killer, by killing.
My mistake.
I'm not saying this individual should have already been executed, putz.
Valiant effort at ignorace though. WTG!

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EDIT: misread

So where the hell do you get your "argument for the death penalty" from?

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Two wrongs dont make it right.

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DP isn't about righting a wrong... it's about preventing killers from killing again. Put this guy to sleep!

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here, here Sava

If the DP is wrong, than two wrongs prevent a third.

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Having said that though Japher, I believe the justice system in America to be mistake-prone and terribly corrupt and unfair. I would be in favor of a moratorium in order to reform and improve the system. There have been dozens of cases reversed in Illinois alone involving the DP. God knows how many innocent men Texas has killed.

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Hell yes. Why wouldn't I be?
It illustrates to perfection that locking a murderer up guarantees not a thing.


How the hell would killing him solve the problem. Do you think you have the right to decide who lives and dies now?

No, he shouldn't of killed those people, he can't decide who lives and who dies either. It still doesn't give you the right to kill him.

The death penalty is just sanctioned murder.

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Edit: Because Krazy edited.

Last edited by SlowwHand on 21-07-2003 at 22:32

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We should free all the prisoners!

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How the hell would killing him solve the problem.
He wouldn't be around to kill more people, dUH!
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Do you think you have the right to decide who lives and dies now?
Society has the right to legitimize the rule of law

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The death penalty is just sanctioned murder.
Wrong... it's sanctioned punishment.

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Um... if the state can make a royal mistake like this, what is there to guarantee that it won't make a quite equally royal mistake when sentencing someone to the death penalty?

Edit - oh, Sava already pointed this out.

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And the punishment is getting killed.

Whats murder again?
Oh yeah, it's when you kill someone.

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Um... if the state can make a royal mistake like this, what is there to guarantee that it won't make a quite equally royal mistake when condemning someone to the death penalty?
That's why I think there should be reform... but there are clear cut cases of undeniable guilt. There should definitely be more checks and balances, as well as judicial review.

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Um... if the state can make a royal mistake like this, what is there to guarantee that it won't make a quite equally royal mistake when sentencing someone to the death penalty?


Kass is dead on there.

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Whats murder again?
Oh yeah, it's when you kill someone.
Nope... read up on law and the difference between murder and other cases of death.

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Murder is the killing of an innocent.

That isn't convicted murderers, nor military.
Bend it into any shape you want, that's fact.

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ahh the magic words.

He was a drug convict

If the liberals had their way- he would never be in jail in the first place.

discuss

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He was a drug convict

If the liberals had their way- he would never be in jail in the first place.
are you for real or trolling?

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DP isn't about righting a wrong... it's about preventing killers from killing again. Put this guy to sleep!


Sava! This guy never killed anyone. He was convicted on drug crimes.

He's a non-violent criminal.

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Sava! This guy never killed anyone. He was convicted on drug crimes.

He's a non-violent criminal.

I never said he should have been put to sleep because of drug crimes... I said he should be put to sleep over murder.

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are you for real or trolling?


to tell the truth- I'm not really sure . I just put that out there to spark discussion.

But there is a point to that post. The above article said he would be released eventually. You can't hold drug offenders forever. He would have killed his family eventually. You could make the argument that his anger would die down after a few years. But I doubt it. He was in prison after all. He had plenty of time for his anger to die down, it didn't. If anything, his anger increased while he was in prison.

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I say we reopen the colliseum in rome! countries from around the world can bring thier criminals that have been sentenced to death and they can fight. Once they have succesfully killed at least one hundred other men they can be set free! (and of course thier car mysteriously never makes it to the airport... with them in it anyway.)

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But there is a point to that post. The above article said he would be released eventually. You can't hold drug offenders forever. He would have killed his family eventually. You could make the argument that his anger would die down after a few years. But I doubt it. He was in prison after all. He had plenty of time for his anger to die down, it didn't. If anything, his anger increased while he was in prison.


cant he be held on conspiracy or something. it says he wrote threatening letter to his family.

 
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