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Sirotnikov
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<--- Yes, It's a "kitty" in a boot.
Feb 2000
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I dislike Microsoft and I dislike IE but there is nothing really better.
Opera is nice, cool, swift and quick, and yet it's.... somehow 'ubrowser-like'. You toy with it and it's quick and sleek, but it seems more like some project one would build utilzing the IE engine, rather a stand-alone browser.
I've been downloading and testing Mozilla ever since the 0.7 version and always hoped "this would be the one" to make me move.
From version 0.9 I already moved my e-mail account to the new mail manager, from my old 4.7, and I still haven't got a single worm or virus from e-mail. (not having silly friends with your e-mail in their address book also helps, though I did recieve some rare letters with VBS files, that DID NOT open automatically, whcih I simply deleted.)
Somehow, when I downloaded 1.4 today, and read about people saying it's worth the move, I felt like smircking. "Yeah that's what I always like to think, and then I go back to IE".
But somehow, this release feels like a stable, quick and finished browser.
It doesn't hog my memory. It is fast and error free on my pages. It doesn't try to circumvent my fire-wall and ad-blocker and insists on loading active-x (flash) ads behind my back. It doesn't alert me a THOUSAND times, that the active-x component I told it not to run, will probably ruin my whole browsing experience, like IE used to do.
It just works. With hebrew and with russian.
It loads many complex pages much quicker than IE.
Since it isn't so sorrowly integrated into my Windows, it makes no attempts to, for what ever reasons, read my harddisks at random places at random intervals, while failing to process a draw window command.
Finally, I feel at home with Mozilla 1.4.
Why don't you to?
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Whaleboy
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Jan 2003
time: 05:29
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Because it takes way longer to load, doesn't support the Google Toolbar's (better) way of blocking popups, is still substantially buggier than IE, and its future is in doubt with last week's laying off of 50 of their software engineers.
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True about google, although I have no complaints about the pop-up protection. How is it buggier? (in terms of major bugs, the minor stuff that gets reported to Mozilla but MS can afford to ignore). Netscapes closing down wont hurt Mozilla, because many developers have moved to Mozilla, and Aol will support Mozilla too. Financially, it looks good.
It does take longer to load, granted, however the new versions are being de-bloated, and on my machine its not exactly noticeable anyway!
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Originally posted by Asher
Because it takes way longer to load, doesn't support the Google Toolbar's (better) way of blocking popups, is still substantially buggier than IE, and its future is in doubt with last week's laying off of 50 of their software engineers.
Not to mention that the interface is noticably less responsive than IE. |
Ahem. It was 50 Netscape engineers that got laid off.
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Whaleboy
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Jan 2003
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Because I have it crash, hang, and become unresponsive far more often than IE. I also dislike how the scroll works while the page is loading, it's irratic and irritating
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I dont find that, report it with your processor arch, OS and connection etc.
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It looks good?? AOL gave them $2M...that's pocketchange
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I mean that financially, Mozilla is not dependent on Netscape/AOL.
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they're hiring three of the 50 people laid off
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Ok, not many then, but better than a kick in the crotch!
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Ahem. Who do you think develops 95% of Mozilla's code?
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Mozilla??  They have the code now, all they need to do is develop it. They have the three developers coming across now so that may maintain a netscape direction for a bit, but it is an independent browser, whose life is not dependent on netscape.
Besides, if your arguments were true, and Mozilla was in deep ****, dont you think that there would be a degree more concern in the FOSS circles?
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Sirotnikov
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<--- Yes, It's a "kitty" in a boot.
Feb 2000
time: 07:29
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Originally posted by Asher
Because it takes way longer to load, |
Wierd.
On my comp it takes 2 or 3 seconds to load, while IE often freezes for 2 or 3 seconds for no reason at all, reading my hard disk.
And no, I don't have spyware present 
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doesn't support the Google Toolbar's (better) way of blocking popups |
Maybe, but I have no doubt it will.
Anyhoo, I don't care, I use my own ad-blocker.
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is still substantially buggier than IE |
Nope, can't share that thought. I have the most recent version of IE 6 + SP, and it still crashes, as often as once every couple of days.
Mozilla since version 1.2 didn't crash on me once.
Admittedly I used it less, but put it uner the same or more stress.
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and its future is in doubt with last week's laying off of 50 of their software engineers. |
No it's not, since it's still an active community.
Nor should that be of any concern, because according to recent rumors, Microsoft will not make anymore IE versions, nor any further service packs. If you want a new version - get their future windows version.
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Not to mention that the interface is noticably less responsive than IE. |
I know, but it has very much improved in 1.4. The main reason appears to be that Mozillla uses it's own API. I also find this annoying, but I understand their need for it, being cross platform and all.
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:29
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Originally posted by elijah
I dont find that, report it with your processor arch, OS and connection etc. |
It happens on my P3 800, 384MB RAM, cable internet, WinXP SP1. It happens on my P4 2.53GHz, 1GB RAM, DSL internet, WinXP SP1. It happens on my UltraSparc II 450MHz, 256MB RAM, Solaris 8. It happens on my P3 800, 384MB RAM, cable internet, Linux 2.4.20...
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I mean that financially, Mozilla is not dependent on Netscape/AOL. |
And where do they get their money, then?
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Mozilla?? They have the code now, all they need to do is develop it. They have the three developers coming across now so that may maintain a netscape direction for a bit, but it is an independent browser, whose life is not dependent on netscape. |
Mozilla has funding to hire 3 programmers. That is, seriously, nothing. They relied on Netscape to do basically everything, overall design to implementation of the boring stuff the "freebie" volunteers never want to do.
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Besides, if your arguments were true, and Mozilla was in deep ****, dont you think that there would be a degree more concern in the FOSS circles? |
It's been in the local papers here, it's been talked about on CNN, etc. FOSS circles probably don't want to admit that their vaunted, flagship open source software is going down the crapper.
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Whaleboy
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Please make all cheques payable to Whaleboy
Jan 2003
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It's been in the local papers here, it's been talked about on CNN, etc. FOSS circles probably don't want to admit that their vaunted, flagship open source software is going down the crapper.
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 That would be the HURD!
Lets wait for a couple of months see if you are correct 
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It happens on my P3 800, 384MB RAM, cable internet, WinXP SP1. It happens on my P4 2.53GHz, 1GB RAM, DSL internet, WinXP SP1. It happens on my UltraSparc II 450MHz, 256MB RAM, Solaris 8
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I smell BS. It runs perfectly well on my P4 2.8GHz, 512Mb RAM, cable, Slackware9.0 and WinXP home box, although IE sometimes freezes and bumps out in XP. Cant be bothered to get crossover office so I cant test it on Linux  .
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