23-07-2003 09:14									#31
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I'll shut it like I shut your momma's ass cheeks last night when I got done with her.

	23-07-2003 10:48									#32
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Templar -

quote: how are commies hypocrites?

Well, since communists don't want others imposing their ideologies on them while wanting to impose communism on others, I'd say communists are by definition guilty of hypocrisy. That can't said for everyone else since not all ideologies are imposed on others, you know, like us libertarians.

	23-07-2003 10:57									#33
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quote: That can't said for everyone else since not all ideologies are imposed on others, you know, like us libertarians.

But you want to severely limit the powers and extent of the government, meaning you want to impose your ideology on others.

	23-07-2003 11:08									#34
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That's like saying my desire to be free from slavery or involuntary servitude is an imposition on those who seek to enslave me.

If you want big government running your life, feel free to pay for it. Just don't make the rest of us join in your endeavor.

Last edited by Berzerker on 23-07-2003 at 11:13

	23-07-2003 11:13									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker If you want big government running your life, feel free to pay for it. Just don't make the rest of us join you in your endeavor.

Well that is rather the problem isn't it? You want a smaller government, and I want a bigger one. As long as we live in the same country, someone is going to end up imposing their views on someone else. Claiming that you don't wish to do so is hypocritical. I will make no such claim.

	23-07-2003 11:20									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Victor Galis Well that is rather the problem isn't it? You want a smaller government, and I want a bigger one. As long as we live in the same country, someone is going to end up imposing their views on someone else. Claiming that you don't wish to do so is hypocritical. I will make no such claim.

So you admit hypocrisy since you do want to impose your ideology on me but don't want me imposing my ideology on you? I have no desire to impose freedom on you, just freedom from you imposing your ideology on me.

	23-07-2003 11:22									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Odin You apparently didn't get the in my post, Berz. Both sides have hypocrites. For example, many Soviet leaders were hypocrites. the reason, I think, Communism hasn't worked yet is that those leaders (Stalin, Mao, Mugabe) were hypocritical, They claimed leadership for the good of the people but grew rich on the blood of others, That is why I like Democratic control by the workers themselves. the same goes with conservative leaders (Franco, Mussolini, etc.). *waits for Fez to come say how good Franco was*

Well the left has always been more stupid and hypocritical then the right.

	23-07-2003 19:47									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker Templar - Well, since communists don't want others imposing their ideologies on them while wanting to impose communism on others, I'd say communists are by definition guilty of hypocrisy. That can't said for everyone else since not all ideologies are imposed on others, you know, like us libertarians.

I'll remember that as I'm choking on fumes from industries using their own environmental standards.

But seriously, that hardly qualifies as hypocricy. Communists don't object to other ideologies being imposed - only all those other incorrect ideologies.

	23-07-2003 19:53									#39
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Odin, don't be a dumbass Your ad hom's at repub's don't mean anything. They are fezzings

...sigh...

I was going to comment in this thread, but it's turned into another lame cat fight between the usual suspects.

	23-07-2003 20:37									#40
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quote: I'd like to see how, say, MtG is a hypocrite. Or, for that matter, how I'm a hypocrite. Prove that conservatives are universally hypocrites and I'll believe you.

it's obvious. he, like most liberals, has fallen victim to the same disease that most conservatives suffer from. it's a horrid disease, which eats away at the intellectual facilities of an individual, reducing heretofore logical and understandable speech into mind-numbing spittle-covered rhetoric. blindly assuming generalizations about the other side.

quote: Well the left has always been more stupid and hypocritical then the right.