24-07-2003 07:05									#31
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Frigging liberal pansy...

	24-07-2003 07:08									#32
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What? Coastal cities being boiled alive doesn't sate your bloodlust?

	24-07-2003 07:10									#33
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It leaves all of the interior to cause troubles...

	24-07-2003 07:12									#34
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I'd share the tech with all of humanity, duh.

	24-07-2003 07:41									#35
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Awesome thread idea, lonestar

I voted giving all the tech to the USA... I shall lead Her to a glorious democratic space Empire.

North Korea: prepare for orbital bombardment... Bagdhad: I hope the resistance have blasters, or at least .50BMG, cause storm trooper armor is ballistic resistance.
Whats that? the russians got a new Mig? eat TIE Interceptor, you ruskey bastard
Huh? China is massing troops off the coast of Taiwan? no no nooooo
Shoot... just join the US or DIE, and together, as humanity, we shall forge an interstellar Human Empire

	24-07-2003 07:48									#36
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Needs to be a multiple choice poll. I would:

'Splode Paris
Teach North Korea a lesson it wouldn't soon forget
Take over the world
Establish an interstellar empire

In that order.

	24-07-2003 07:50									#37
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Why 'splode Paris? Just because the French are there doesn't mean we should destroy all the historical landmarks, lovely architecture, great museums and art, etc.

If we're going to pick a city to 'splode, I vote for L.A. ****ers.

I would systematically cauterize the Bible Belt, and then jaunt off into space to explore and conquer.

	24-07-2003 07:51									#38
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For future intersteller empire makers:

Where there's one ship, there's probably more.

Lots more.

	24-07-2003 07:53									#39
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quote: Create intersteller Empire

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	24-07-2003 07:55									#40
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TMM: We can always build more too, can´t we?

	24-07-2003 07:59									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Why 'splode Paris? Just because the French are there doesn't mean we should destroy all the historical landmarks, lovely architecture, great museums and art, etc. If we're going to pick a city to 'splode, I vote for L.A. ****ers. I would systematically cauterize the Bible Belt, and then jaunt off into space to explore and conquer.

While you are correct in your last to statements, there is no room in our Interstellar Empire for historical landmarks, lovely architecture, great museums and art, etc.




ACK!

	24-07-2003 07:59									#42
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Well, first I'd get the nations of the world to get their ****ing act together. For example, Bush is immediately removed from office...I think I'll use Sava as my new puppet, considering he WILL only be a puppet.

Then, yes, the ultimatum to the Middle East: Play nice or die.

Afterwards--ensure that I will be megaruler of Earth until the end of time. Maybe colonize space--depends.

	24-07-2003 07:59									#43
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk For future intersteller empire makers: Where there's one ship, there's probably more. Lots more.

Yes, but in SW literature, a Star Destroyer is sort of like its own carrier battle group + marine expeditionary force - over 72 assorted fighters, bombers, and gunboats, thousands of troops, armored regiments, 60 heavy turbolasers and 60 heavy ion cannon, and deflector shields that can take 100 megaton blasts without failing.

Six can reduce a planet to molten rock in a day, IIRC.

	24-07-2003 08:06									#44
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quote: If we're going to pick a city to 'splode, I vote for L.A. ****ers.

you and your 'east coast/west coast' escapades...


Oh, and id also want to capture as many of the hottest women on earth to become my space babes and travel with me around on my Imperial voyages

	24-07-2003 08:15									#45
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker Yes, but in SW literature, a Star Destroyer is sort of like its own carrier battle group + marine expeditionary force - over 72 assorted fighters, bombers, and gunboats, thousands of troops, armored regiments, 60 heavy turbolasers and 60 heavy ion cannon, and deflector shields that can take 100 megaton blasts without failing. Six can reduce a planet to molten rock in a day, IIRC.

Sure -- but what's one carrier battle group against dozens or hundreds or thousands of other carrier battle groups?

Carlos: sure, but they have one hell of a head start.

	24-07-2003 08:17									#46
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Btw, why did they break with navy tradition? Destroyers are supposed to be one of the lighter ship types.

	24-07-2003 08:21									#47
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Btw, why did they break with navy tradition? Destroyers are supposed to be one of the lighter ship types.

It IS!

Especially in comparision to Executer SSD's and Home One star crusiers.Remember, most of the Rebel fleet at Endor was composed of frigates and corvettes. Alhtough the Flagship was over 3 km long.

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	24-07-2003 08:23									#49
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No, it's an Imperator-class Star Destroyer. Star Destroyer is an entire classification of ship, referring to a ship that has the power of a battleship but also significant troop and starfighter capacity. There is also a Victory-class Star Destroyer, which was developed before the fall of the Republic and is a somewhat antiquated design, though still in widespread use (kinda like the B-52, a Star Destroyer design is made to last). The Super-class Star Destroyer (like the Executor) was developed some time between the Battle of Yavin and the Battle of Hoth, and was intended to serve primarily as the flagship of a fleet. At the time of the Battle of Hoth, only four had been contructed.

	24-07-2003 08:25									#50
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Okay, which one of you is lying?

	24-07-2003 08:27									#51
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I presume that this baby has a decent set of star maps, complete with data on the planets of thousands of systems, right? I'd load this baby up with the cream of humanity, fly them to a nice uninhabited Gaia-class planet, and start human history all over.

Even money as to whether or not I'd slag the earth first. Anyone want to help me decide?

	24-07-2003 08:29									#52
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He is. Incidently, there were plenty more than 4 Executer-SSD's as of Endor. ("Relax kid there are lots of command ships")

The Rebel Flagship at Endor was Home One, over 3 km in length, more than 1.3 km longer than the ISD Deuces.

The earliest novels ever, (The Han Solo Trilogy) referenced Invincible-class battleships used by the Corporate Sector. They were over 2 km long.

ISD's are unremarkable sizewise when compared to Other large capital ships.

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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar It IS! Especially in comparision to Executer SSD's and Home One star crusiers.Remember, most of the Rebel fleet at Endor was composed of frigates and corvettes. Alhtough the Flagship was over 3 km long.

Wrong on almost all counts. The Home One was only an MC-80 Calamari Star Cruiser modified with additional hangar capacity. The MC-80 is about as powerful as a Victory and about as long (1200 meters). The MC-80b (developed about two years after the Battle of Endor) is somewhat more powerful than a Victory, and the MC-90 (developed over a decade after Endor) is about as powerful as an Imperator. The Executor was 8 km long. And the Rebel fleet at Endor actually contained somewhere between 10 and 15 Star Cruisers. See my above post for other reasons you are wrong.

	24-07-2003 08:34									#54
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Wow...think of how many Communists Fez could throw out of an Imperial Stardestroyer

	24-07-2003 08:34									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar He is. Incidently, there were plenty more than 4 Executer-SSD's as of Endor. ("Relax kid there are lots of command ships")

Yes, something like six. Notice that I said at Hoth. Also, Executor is not a class of Star Destroyer, it's the name of an individual one.

quote: The Rebel Flagship at Endor was Home One, over 3 km in length, more than 1.3 km longer than the ISD Deuces.

Want me to bring out my Star Wars Complete Guide to Vehicles and Vessels, and my collection of something like 40 post-endor novels?

quote: The earliest novels ever, (The Han Solo Trilogy) referenced Invincible-class battleships used by the Corporate Sector. They were over 2 km long.

Huh, I don't recall anything about a 2 km long ship in those books. Still, proves nothing.

quote: ISD's are unremarkable sizewise when compared to Other large capital ships.

No, ISD's are unremarkable sizewise because at the height of the Imperial Navy, there were 25,000 Star Destroyers

	24-07-2003 08:34									#56
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Why settle for a little speculation when you can get your own ISD for real?

	24-07-2003 08:35									#57
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They're making one?!

I MUST HAVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	24-07-2003 08:38									#58
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker Wrong on almost all counts. The Home One was only an MC-80 Calamari Star Cruiser modified with additional hangar capacity.

Nope,uh-huh. The differences are too astute, MC80's have wings.

quote: The MC-80 is about as powerful as a Victory and about as long (1200 meters).

Correct.

quote: The MC-80b (developed about two years after the Battle of Endor) is somewhat more powerful than a Victory, and the MC-90 (developed over a decade after Endor) is about as powerful as an Imperator.

Correct (Though a ISD II would still beat it)

quote: The Executor was 8 km long. And the Rebel fleet at Endor actually contained somewhere between 10 and 15 Star Cruisers. See my above post for other reasons you are wrong.

(Thrawn said a dozen crusiers and several smaller ships. Close enough)

The Executor was damn near 18 km long. Don't believe me? History of the 5-mile fallacy below.

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/ssd/ssdisd.gif

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/ssd5mile.html

Incidently, a better description of it would be a "Commandship". After all, there was no SSD titled Super, was there?

	24-07-2003 08:39									#59
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Now I'm not that much into Star Wars, and I mostly quit building anything out of legos several years ago (save for the mecha I made earlier this year), but ME TOO!!!!!!! I bet it's gonna cost a fortune though...

	24-07-2003 08:51									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar Nope,uh-huh. The differences are too astute, MC80's have wings.

The original "MC-80"'s were very diverse in design. Remember, they were modified space liners, and each Mon Calamari ship is somewhat unique.

quote: (Thrawn said a dozen crusiers and several smaller ships. Close enough)

Yeah, 12 falls between 10 and 15

quote: The Executor was damn near 18 km long. Don't believe me? History of the 5-mile fallacy below.

No, the Eclipse was about 20 km, IIRC (I never read the comics). And, despite your pictures, watch The Empire Strikes Back again. The ISD's are clearly NOT a tenth of the Executor's length. Also the site you provided talks about maritime convention when talking about the naming; however, a) maritime convention doesn't necessarily apply and b) it's not a Destroyer, it's a Star Destroyer.

quote: Incidently, a better description of it would be a "Commandship". After all, there was no SSD titled Super, was there?

Exactly, because it was the CLASS of Star Destroyer. The Super Super Star Destroyer?