26-07-2003 16:45									#31
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I think Pink Floyd is highly overrated. They have thei style, though. I love King Crimson, but while they are better technically, Genesis beats them when it comes to composition. The same for Yes. Dream Theater is nice sometimes, but generally they are far away in any aspect. I know ELP too little, I just listened though BBS; again, they are great technically and got some nice ideas, but their compositions aren't good, except for impression 1 part 1 perhaps.

	26-07-2003 17:43									#32
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I totally agree with everything Buck Birdseed is going to post later today in this thread.

I still have the albums of Yes, Genesis, Floyd and KC that I bought in the 70's when we had long hair and thought that freaking on instruments to show off how good you are was really cool. But I'm proud to say I haven't touched them for over 20 years now...

	26-07-2003 18:08									#33
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How can You judge something You don't seem to remember?
Oh course, especially Yes, PF and ELP, in smaller extent KC, and the smallest Genesis, were building melodyless overtechnified parts, but some actually are nice. Perhaps You feel bad about your past days... But not everything was that bad, at least not when it comes to those bands.

	26-07-2003 18:16									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson How can You judge something You don't seem to remember? Oh course, especially Yes, PF and ELP, in smaller extent KC, and the smallest Genesis, were building melodyless overtechnified parts, but some actually are nice. Perhaps You feel bad about your past days... But not everything was that bad, at least not when it comes to those bands.

Oh, I remember, I may be old but not senile yet...

Man, was I glad when they invented Punk and we could get over pretending being intellectuals and drooling over pretentious s**t. I'll be your roundabout for sure...

	26-07-2003 18:17									#35
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I voted Yes

ELP and Pinkfloyd were runnersup.

	26-07-2003 19:00									#36
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Yes is winning with Genesis

	26-07-2003 19:22									#37
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Dream Theater. They're like a modernized Rush.

	26-07-2003 19:26									#38
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who says you can't like punk and prog

	26-07-2003 19:28									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson Yes is winning with Genesis

Genesis is not prog, at least since the early 80's.

	26-07-2003 19:32									#40
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But it was, and it is enough. i think that the later era harms the good memory of the earlier one...

	26-07-2003 22:04									#41
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I vote PF and other. While I personally like Pink Floyd better (mainly because of Gilmour's guitar solos), I can't help but picture Rush as the epitome of prog rock.

	27-07-2003 01:11									#42
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I've been thinking for like five minutes how to create a logical contradiction by posting something here that'd invalidate Hueij's first post, but I can't think of anything. So I'll just fill in what Hueij expects me to post.

Prog Rock is ****.

	27-07-2003 01:19									#43
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quote: I can't help but picture Rush as the epitome of prog rock.

If I want slower, mind bending stuff, I listen to Pink Floyd. If I want a faster pace it's Rush. Those two are my favorites...

	27-07-2003 01:23									#44
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quote: I've been thinking for like five minutes how to create a logical contradiction by posting something here that'd invalidate Hueij's first post,

How about :

quote: What Hueij said earlier is false.

But these things always confuse me.

	27-07-2003 01:29									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson But it was, and it is enough. i think that the later era harms the good memory of the earlier one...

I've been debating with myself about what bands could be considered "prog", and what the criteria are. I still don't think Genesis would fit that bill because they got out of the Prog side of the spectrum a long time ago. True blue Proggers carry the mantle proudly to the grave

Some of the bands I would consider (maybe): Blue Oyster Cult, Queensryche, Primus, Zappa.

	27-07-2003 17:40									#46
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Well, Genesis "tried" to be prog again...

	30-07-2003 02:27									#47
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Just a post to keep the thread alive...

	30-07-2003 02:37									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson Just a post to keep the thread alive...

Let it die, just like prog-rock...

	30-07-2003 02:43									#49
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Heretic!! The concept album and 14/6 time signature shall live forever!!

	30-07-2003 16:49									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Hueij Let it die, just like prog-rock...

I have bad news for You; Britney and Shakira will fade away as well!

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quote: Originally posted by Jac de Molay Heretic!! The concept album and 14/6 time signature shall live forever!!

So many fractions, so little time.

	30-07-2003 16:56									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Hueij Oh, I remember, I may be old but not senile yet... Man, was I glad when they invented Punk and we could get over pretending being intellectuals and drooling over pretentious s**t. I'll be your roundabout for sure...

I liked New Wave, but Punk had such a low percentage of bands worth listening to that I avoided it for the most part. I prefer more complex composition, less screaming and people who can actually play their instruments. Green Day is probably my favorite Punk band of all time, as they seem to have avoided most of these pitfalls.

	30-07-2003 17:50									#53
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King Crimson all the way

	30-07-2003 22:17									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson I have bad news for You; Britney and Shakira will fade away as well!

And why exactly is that bad news? Kiddies pop idols never stay idols for long...

But are you implying that your beloved prog-rockers are in the same league as Britney Spears and Shakira (who she?)?

	30-07-2003 22:24									#55
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King Crimson was very good.
All are good choices, I especially like ELP.
My vote though, will have to go to Pink Floyd.

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quote: Originally posted by Hueij And why exactly is that bad news? Kiddies pop idols never stay idols for long... But are you implying that your beloved prog-rockers are in the same league as Britney Spears and Shakira (who she?)?

No. I was just thinking what the hell You may be listening to now, that You are fed up with musicians trying to be intellectual...

	31-07-2003 02:06									#57
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Dream Theater is much better than all of the rest.
They are dominant technically and musically (which are the most important issues in prog-rock anyway)

but I guess bands like Pink Floyd (which is more symphonical rock) and Genesis get most votes because more people know these bands.

	31-07-2003 09:30									#58
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I have to admit I've never heard of Dream Theater. If you had to suggest an album for the nonbeliever, what would it be?

	31-07-2003 11:17									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson No. I was just thinking what the hell You may be listening to now, that You are fed up with musicians trying to be intellectual...

Right now I'm listening to the news on the radio

Yesterday evening it was mainly reggae, but it might as well been Sinatra, 40's music or Johnny Cash. Or something else...

	31-07-2003 13:55									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Harry Seldon I have to admit I've never heard of Dream Theater. If you had to suggest an album for the nonbeliever, what would it be?

"Images and Words" or "Metropolis Pt2: Scenes from a memory"

Or try to find these songs:
Learning To Live
Goodnight Kiss
Dance of Eternity
Metropolis Pt1
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