24-07-2003 22:06									#1
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I was thinking of four players and each one having two civs.

Each player would choose their first choice, then once that was settled each would choose their second choice. Standard Civ rules and no mods, unless all four players agree to change something.

Player One would play his two civs then email to Player two who would play his two and so on. Hopefully it would move quickly with only four passes per turn.

	25-07-2003 01:26									#2
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I would be all for this.

I've gotten to the point where I don't like playing Civ3 against the computer. It's no longer that entertaining. On the other hand, human opponents Civ3 is great.

Anyway, my email is:

lmto_ops(at)ya_hoo(dot)com
Of course remove all _ ;(at) is @; (dot) is .

I'll need to think about my Civ choices.

	25-07-2003 05:07									#3
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I'd like to join. Two civs sounds like a fun idea and with only four players it shouldn't be too slow.
My e-mail address is suro2003 at kornet dot net.
As for my first civ . . . .the Ottomans please.
Will there be culturally linked starting positions? This will affect the choice of my second civ I vote we don't use culturally linked starts.

	25-07-2003 05:36									#4
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So we have:
(1) GhengisFarb - 1) Germany
(2) lmtoops - 1) ? ? ?
(3) Anatolia - 1) Ottomans
(4) CerberusIV - 1) Carthage

Last edited by GhengisFarb on 25-07-2003 at 20:28

	25-07-2003 09:07									#5
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I choose Persia.

Let's make civ placement completely random. If your teams end up together...so be it.

Leo

	25-07-2003 13:34									#6
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I don't particularly want to play as I have taken on about as many PBEM's as I can handle but if you want someone not in the game to check the map and start positions to give a reasonably balanced start then I would be willing to do so.

	25-07-2003 15:32									#7
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What size map? If we play on a Large of Huge there should be good start positions regardless. We could also change each pair's culture groups to match and then have the map use culture linked starting positions.

	25-07-2003 16:14									#8
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With 8 civilisations I'd to play on a large map. I think it would be more interesting to play two civs far apart than to have them culturally linked.

	25-07-2003 17:36									#9
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I really can't resist a good PBEM idea. I'd like to take the 4th seat in this game please.

Large map sounds good. It might be more interesting to start with your civs close together so that complementary civs would be important. Say, an industrious civ to improve terrain for both and a militaristic civ to spearhead attacks.

That would mean the game developing quickly. If they are randomly located then exploration will be a bigger element.

First civ choice - Carthage.

	25-07-2003 20:29									#10
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So we have:
(1) GhengisFarb - 1) Germany
(2) lmtoops - 1) Persia
(3) Anatolia - 1) Ottomans
(4) CerberusIV - 1) Carthage

on a large map.

Second civ choices?

I would like Egypt.

	25-07-2003 22:09									#11
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2nd choice - Japan

	25-07-2003 23:53									#12
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So we have:
GhengisFarb - the Prusso-Egyptians
1) Germany
2) Egypt

lmtoops -
1) Persia
2) ?

Anatolia -
1) Ottomans
2) ?

CerberusIV - The Carthagenic Japanese
1) Carthage
2) Japan

on a large map.

	26-07-2003 06:36									#13
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Vikings, please

	26-07-2003 06:57									#14
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So we have:
GhengisFarb - the Prusso-Egyptians
1) Germany
2) Egypt

lmtoops -
1) Persia
2) ?

Anatolia -
1) Ottomans
2) Scandinavia

CerberusIV - The Carthagenic Japanese
1) Carthage
2) Japan

on a large map.

	26-07-2003 14:45									#15
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I wondered if someone would want to try Berserks in a PBEM game.

Now we know which civ to destroy before they get to Invention.

	26-07-2003 17:21									#16
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Come on, Cerb, the Vikings and the Japanese should team up to take over the world.

	26-07-2003 17:44									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Anatolia Come on, Cerb, the Vikings and the Japanese should team up to take over the world.

Do that and he's sorta out of luck on the UU front isn't he?

	28-07-2003 00:14									#18
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What happened to lmtoops?

	28-07-2003 01:14									#19
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I think he may have been away from his computer for the weekend. Once he chooses his second civ is there anything else we need to decide or are we ready to go?

	28-07-2003 02:26									#20
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No, just need to know what he wants and we should be ready to go.

	28-07-2003 09:53									#21
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Yes, I've been gone for the weekend.

I guess I'll go with China. Both are industrious, so I'll start off behind in techs. But the Rider/Immortal combination looks good...not that I plan be a warmongerer

	28-07-2003 15:50									#22
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So we have:
GhengisFarb - the Prusso-Egyptians
1) Germany
2) Egypt

lmtoops -
1) Persia
2) China

Anatolia -
1) Ottomans
2) Scandinavia

CerberusIV - The Carthagenic Japanese
1) Carthage
2) Japan

on a large map.

What are everyone's emails? Is there any issue with using the listed order?

Last edited by GhengisFarb on 28-07-2003 at 16:10

	28-07-2003 16:02									#23
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suro2003 at kornet dot net
The order is fine by me.

	28-07-2003 17:02									#24
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cerberusivciv3 at aol dot com

GF - I think this will mean I am sending you turns from 4 PBEM games. I don't have a problem with that if you don't.

	28-07-2003 19:10									#25
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Naw, that's how I know its a PBEM, "You have a new email message from CerberusIV."

	28-07-2003 19:56									#26
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lmtoops(at)yahoo(dot)com

Order is fine.

Leo

	29-07-2003 18:18									#27
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Sent to Imtoops.

	29-07-2003 20:12									#28
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sent
and
sent to Cerberus

	29-07-2003 20:48									#29
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How are everyone's start postions? Mine were pretty good and my two civs don't look to far apart (knock on wood, I may find out they are on two different land masses.....).

	30-07-2003 00:14									#30
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Sent to Ghengis.

Start positions look good and relatively close together.