26-07-2003 05:49									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon OK (1) If he's a real Star Wars geek then he should be in heaven. He's geek of the geeks, king of the hill, emperor of the known universe. Ugly smelly women will lust after him at comic conventions and weedy losers will want his autograph. (2) I for one, and most people I suspect, weren't mocking him cruelly. I thought it was a really funny video, but I didn't think he was an idiot. In fact I thought he was pretty cool. When I was a lot younger, my friends and I used to play lighsabers. Who hasn't? Look at the number of donations which were received for him. I think that shows that most people are grateful that he made them laugh, by being caught openly doing something deeply and charactistically human - acting silly. Of course people laughed at him. I would have hoped he'd laugh with us because the sort of humour involved is one in which there is no malice.

I agree, most people laughed because they could see themselves doing the same thing.

ACK!

	26-07-2003 05:50									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Defiant Sava, You are kind of taking this personal. Something in this bring back memories of you history, you know being made fun of.

Actually, to me it sounds as if Sava is getting worried about possible repercussions from his own teasing of others...

	26-07-2003 06:34									#33
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quote: (that it was posted on the internet by some ***** who had to break into a cupboard and steal school property to do so)

In that case, it's all different. Just sue the **** who stole the video.

But if you can't just laugh and gain notority by saying "Hey thats me" then you DO need help.

(I never saw the video.)

	26-07-2003 06:35									#34
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quote: Just sue the **** who stole the video.

That's what he did.

	26-07-2003 07:36									#36
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Imran: Damn lawyers always trying to make a buck

hold on....



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an ambulance just passed by my house!

	26-07-2003 07:46									#37
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I thought you said you were on the side of the people?

Lawyers defend the rights of people. The people that ***** most about lawyers are also first in line to run to their attorney when some medical malpractice leaves them unable to walk or some pervert takes naked pictures of them and posts them on the internet.

	26-07-2003 08:02									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon When I was a lot younger, my friends and I used to play lighsabers. Who hasn't?

Me.

	26-07-2003 08:05									#39
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Surprisingly (?) I agree with Imran on this.

Essentially all of you who are saying Ghislain's 'a fat Star Wars geek, he deserves it', or 'get over it', are saying that actions have no consequences. Or negative consequences.

So far there's been no proof he colluded with the people who took the video and posted it on the net, so he didn't consent to his new found fame/notoriety.

How many of you would like private information, or video footage, or emails posted for all the world to doctor or adulterate or jazz up? Are you tacitly saying its all right for someone to enter your place of work or residence, sample whatever private information you have and then send it to the widest audience possible?

If so, I look forward to the Apolyton Files with glee, as I'm sure all of you calling Ghislain a fat geek are real adonises in peak physical condition....

	26-07-2003 08:16									#40
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post the damn video!!!

	26-07-2003 08:20									#41
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I think the kid has every right to sue.

Nobody should be using your image without your permission.

Also, I believe there should be stiff penalties for those new cell phones that have cameras in them. Those are just wrong.

	26-07-2003 08:20									#42
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quote: Originally posted by TCO post the damn video!!!

http://www.jedimaster.net/

	26-07-2003 08:25									#43
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quote: Originally posted by TCO post the damn video!!!

Get KaZaa!

	26-07-2003 08:26									#44
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I DLed 6 different versions of it. Some were pretty snazzy.

	26-07-2003 08:26									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker http://www.jedimaster.net/

Silly Canucks!

	26-07-2003 08:28									#46
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom Surprisingly (?) I agree with Imran on this. Essentially all of you who are saying Ghislain's 'a fat Star Wars geek, he deserves it', or 'get over it', are saying that actions have no consequences. Or negative consequences. So far there's been no proof he colluded with the people who took the video and posted it on the net, so he didn't consent to his new found fame/notoriety. How many of you would like private information, or video footage, or emails posted for all the world to doctor or adulterate or jazz up? Are you tacitly saying its all right for someone to enter your place of work or residence, sample whatever private information you have and then send it to the widest audience possible? If so, I look forward to the Apolyton Files with glee, as I'm sure all of you calling Ghislain a fat geek are real adonises in peak physical condition....

You know what. There's a virtue called acceptance. It means that you realise that weird things may happen to you and that the best way to deal with them is to try and live with them the best way you can.

I don't suppose that any of us would voluntarily put movies of ourselves doing lightsabers up on the net, but if it was me I'd say, "man, it sucks being caught" and deal with it. People for the most part don't consent to notoriety, but the notorious still have to deal with it.

In this case the notoriety is almost all good. Everyone I've talked to feels sorry for him, but they don't hold him in contempt, since he's just like everyone else really only he got caught.

Anyway, for a real Star Wars movie, check this out

http://www.crewoftwo.com/

	26-07-2003 08:29									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker I think the kid has every right to sue. Nobody should be using your image without your permission.

Says the man who posts pics of Britney without her permission.

	26-07-2003 08:35									#48
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Ah, she was the one who posted them for everyone to look at.

	26-07-2003 08:35									#49
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quote: Everyone I've talked to feels sorry for him

You wonder why?

	26-07-2003 08:36									#50
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Secondly, your "you just have to suck it up and deal with it" is complete bullshit.

That kid is humiliated for the rest of his life.

Put yourself in his shoes and see how YOU DEAL WITH IT JACKASS.

Though, I did find the video hilarious.

	26-07-2003 08:37									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Everyone I've talked to feels sorry for him You wonder why?

Not in the way we'd feel sorry for the guy whose home bestiality movie was put on the net.

	26-07-2003 08:38									#52
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Still... both cases is an obvious invasion of privacy, wouldn't you say?

	26-07-2003 08:39									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Secondly, your "you just have to suck it up and deal with it" is complete bullshit. That kid is humiliated for the rest of his life. Put yourself in his shoes and see how YOU DEAL WITH IT JACKASS. Though, I did find the video hilarious.

Grow up.

He has two choices: take it well, people will think he's got a sense of humour and remember it fondly; or sue and act like a twit, come across as a humourless tosser and be remembered as an idiot and an arsehole.

	26-07-2003 08:39									#54
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I agree with you Imran.

They are both invasions of privacy.

I was told that those cell phones with cameras are banned in Korea. Any Koreans confirm this?

	26-07-2003 08:40									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Still... both cases is an obvious invasion of privacy, wouldn't you say?

I don't think he can have an expectation of privacy since he made the film in a public place using the school's equipment.

	26-07-2003 08:41									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon In this case the notoriety is almost all good. Everyone I've talked to feels sorry for him, but they don't hold him in contempt, since he's just like everyone else really only he got caught.

Right. The title of this thread suuure doesn't hold him in contempt. I'm sure everyone would like to be known as a dork.

What you're esaying is that his consent is irrelevant, his private life is irrelevant, and his schoolmates get off scot free.

If he had chosen to publish the video himself (like all those scary people with homepages out there) then I'd say fine, he takes the consequences. But this isn't something that 'happened' to him (nice of you to make it impersonal, as if the video posted itself on the web, without any human agency) accidentally.

Perhaps you also approve of those people that put spycams in public lavatories too. I mean, we all use lavatories, it just sucks being caught, right?

	26-07-2003 08:41									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Grow up. He has two choices: take it well, people will think he's got a sense of humour and remember it fondly; or sue and act like a twit, come across as a humourless tosser and be remembered as an idiot and an arsehole.

F ucking bullshit dude.

I would GUARANTEE if you were in his shoes you wouldn't be saying this ****.

Celebrities sue people all the time for the use of their images for FAR less worse uses of their images and they usually win. The reason why? Because your image is SUPPOSED to be protected.

This kid was downright humiliated.

This poor kid doesn't have the power or the money to defend himself.

Hey Agathon, let's take a picture of you sucking your own d1ck and put it on the net for everyone and see how "grown up" and a "good sport" you are then.

	26-07-2003 08:44									#58
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Man, the guys who posted it had to commit a frigging crime to lay their hands on it.

That's open and shut. They had no right to the use of the video. Period.

They committed burglary. Now they have to deal with the civil consequences.

He'll take them for as much as he can. Good luck to him.

	26-07-2003 08:49									#59
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Oh, evil people, sue them to death. Frankly the courts have better things to do.

And he wasn't sucking his own ****. And yes somebody sent me that picture. Ugh!

Anyway, have you guys seen the Crewoftwo film? That sets new standards for a school movie project.

	26-07-2003 08:52									#60
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quote: I don't think he can have an expectation of privacy since he made the film in a public place using the school's equipment.

So you think if something is locked in a cabinet, it is still a 'public place'?