29-07-2003 02:52									#1
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Is there any interest in this? I think it could be entertaining to square off against you guys, especially as we seem to be showing how we all play the game!

Rules to be determined by majority!

C

	29-07-2003 02:56									#2
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I would like that very much (at least as long as the same thing as with Race for the Prize doesn't happen).

	29-07-2003 14:19									#3
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what happend to the race for the prize? and i am in....but i am going to loose big time

	29-07-2003 14:33									#4
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People dropped out all the time, being replaced umpteen times. Now the game isn't continuing anymore.

	29-07-2003 15:43									#5
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Well yeah, hopefully we won't be dropping out all the time, otherwise this may end up as less democracy game and more an autocracy game....

I'd like the PK's please.

	30-07-2003 01:23									#6
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pirates! pretty pretty please?

	30-07-2003 01:49									#7
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PBEM = SMAC meets watching paint dry

	30-07-2003 01:50									#8
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How about two Pirate factions?

	30-07-2003 03:53									#9
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or an all-aquatic game? (visit Rynn's Gallery for aquaticized versions of all the regular factions)

	30-07-2003 04:09									#10
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oooh, those are fun. i did that a few times

	30-07-2003 13:24									#11
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all aquatic would be fun....

	31-07-2003 01:06									#13
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Googlie, what changes did you make to those aquatized factions? Rynn's gallery says you added some facilities for instance.

	31-07-2003 05:30									#14
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I would be interested, and all-aquatic would be an interesting switch.

Arr! Meet the Sea-borgs!

	07-08-2003 19:36									#15
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ok so who is playing? and are we still doing this?

	07-08-2003 23:37									#16
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If it's still going on, then I'll join in.

	08-08-2003 02:12									#17
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Of course I would like to join. I just though interest dropped since no one responded.

	08-08-2003 02:56									#18
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Ahh so this is the reply that dropped, been getting loads of 500 server errors recently ...

Do we need a CMN or should one of us just start?

	08-08-2003 05:34									#19
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Well I think we still need to decide the factions we're gonna use. But if we can choose out of Googlie's adapted set, I have a few concerns about balance. He gave the Consciousness a free skunkworks, the Drones a free naval yard ( ), the Believers rec commons, Gaians biology lab, Morgan energy bank, Spartans command center, and the PKs a free children's creche, along with a few other minor changes I sometimes don't understand. These changes are in the disadvantage of those factions who already had a free facility. Also the Pirates are still the original, now making them quite weak compared to Googlie's aquatic set. So there are a few things we might need to discuss, adapt the factions a little ourselves so they seem more balanced. (Or I could do a few proposals, and you guys could say whether you like them or not. )

	08-08-2003 15:47									#20
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i like the last line you typed (yes i am lazy )

	08-08-2003 17:07									#21
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I'll try to post a proposal tonight when I have more time.

	30-08-2003 05:35									#22
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It turned out to be a long night.

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Maniac/Aquaticfacs.zip

Basically I worked from Googlie's set and deleted the free facilities and some other things (eg free sea colony pod for Spartans and PKs) he had given. On the other hand I added a few things myself eg free unity foil for the Spartans.
I changed three factions:

The Disciples I gave one free mineral on fungus.

For the Hackers I gave them a free probe cutter instead of a probe team (I added the probe cutter in my edited alphax.txt. I haven't tested if it works though). I also lessened their probe bonus from +2 to +1 to avoid the rollover bug. In return I gave them impunity for Knowledge, which seems a fitting SE choice for them.

The original Pirates had become quite weak compared to the all-aquatic set, so I boosted them with +1 Support and impunity for Power. A true warmonger's faction! They may again be too powerful now though.

As for the alphax.txt, it contains a probe cutter, a -1 instead of -2 industry penalty for Power SE, and halved chassis costs for foils and cruiser.

Disclaimer: I didn't test all these changes. I just threw together some files in a hurry tonight.

	30-08-2003 06:12									#23
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M:

I'll have a look at them and playtest this weekend, and give some comments (assuming Sunday afternoon isn't too late)

G.