29-07-2003 04:14									#1
	How many people do you know IRL, who likes TBS games? Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

I know none... well, I do know one who likes those games, but he NEVER plays TBS games (He almost never plays computer games)


Am I unlucky, or is this common among TBS players, to not know other TBS players IRL?


I wish I could setup a netparty, where TBS games is the #1 type of game to be played... or even RTS games... I only know few people who likes RTS games, but they only play it seldom, so even with my lack of skill in that type of game, I'll probably win without competition... or that's at least what they think, so they don't even want to try a game against me...

	29-07-2003 04:20									#2
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	29-07-2003 04:24									#3
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My roommate would sit and play Civ2 for hours, and even got his girlfriend hooked on it before she realized it was sucking away her free time and she quit cold turkey.

A couple of friends of mine from college played, but I don't know if they play anything now. My college buds and I usually play NWN or Diablo II online.

Hmmm, not many others besides that. I have one gay friend who played Civ2 as well, but I don't think plays anymore. I dare not bring it up in gay circles!

	29-07-2003 04:28									#4
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IRL, IIRC only FUBAR SOBs.

	29-07-2003 04:33									#5
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not too many.

let's face it, turn based strategy is the second most geeky thing after role playing gaming. but sicne RPGs are widely accepted and even getting poular, we're facing a situation were we'll have to realize that TBS is actually the geekiest thing on Earth.

	29-07-2003 04:37									#6
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Oh come on! Star Trek convention goers will have that title for decades yet.

TBS I worked out, what is IRL?

	29-07-2003 04:39									#7
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In Real Life...

oh well, I just got that

	29-07-2003 04:40									#8
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I only know one or two people but you have to remember most of my friends think computer games are nerdy and would rather do something phsyically active. That's not really a good cross poll of the population as a whole.

	29-07-2003 04:47									#9
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Think about it this way:
Not we are weird for playing TBS.
They are weird for playing not!

	29-07-2003 04:50									#10
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A couple, though when we get together we're more likely to play do board wargaming.

	29-07-2003 04:56									#11
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well over 20

jon Miller

	29-07-2003 04:58									#12
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So what's that make turn-based RPGs?

	29-07-2003 05:15									#13
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Or what about HOMM a Turn-based Strategy RPG
That one was actually played by a lot of ppl I know in RL, even my sister who barrely touches any pc ...

All nerds!

	29-07-2003 05:41									#14
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believe it or not, i know about a dozen people who play Civilization... and these aren't nerds either... they include varsity volleyball and basketball players. none of them really have much interest in posting on apolyton though...

come on... if i know a dozen non-nerds living in the ghetto who play civilization, how do yall possibly not know anyone?

	29-07-2003 05:46									#15
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I don't know anyone IRL who plays TBS. The only games I see being played in the computer lab at my school are FPS.

	29-07-2003 05:47									#16
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Truth is, I know a couple of hard core TBS folks, and maybe 3 or 4 who stick their toe in the water sometimes.

	29-07-2003 06:05									#17
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i know 27. i have civlans with 6 people here @ home, and every wednesday is civday @ uni.

i r lusah!

	29-07-2003 06:28									#18
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I go to a tech school where there's 3 guys for every girl. I think I can safely claim to know many people who play TBS games.

	29-07-2003 06:29									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Victor Galis I go to a tech school where there's 3 guys for every girl. I think I can safely claim to know many people who play TBS games.

same here. in my class it's 3:1, in the junior class is 5:1!

	29-07-2003 08:03									#20
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I had a chief in the navy who liked Civ2 alot.

Also my brother likes them as well- just not as much as rpg's.

	29-07-2003 09:33									#21
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I know about 20 people who like them. I bet some of my gaming friends who I've lost track of over the years like them too, but I haven't seem some of those people since wargaming became viable on the personal computer.

	29-07-2003 11:34									#22
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None . Most of my friends cannot play ANY game , even something like those pathetic action thingies , without cheats . RTS and TBS goes waaaaaaaaaaay above their heads . The format of their typical AOE 2 game is this .


Hey, look at the little people . I'll (do something totally irrelevant , or futile , or simply stupid ) with them .

(AI sends its first rush)

What ? Who's killing my nive little village ?

(Cheats)

Take that , and that .

(Jumping up in jubiliation over victory )

Yeah , I won , I won !

It's thse same people who are extremely frustrated that there is no cheat mode in Civ3 .
(Them: Can't you stop that enemy from crushing me , somehow ?
Me: What difficulty are you palying on ?
Them: Chief something , you know . . . .
Me: (Launch into overview of the basics of the game)
Them: That's all fine , but how can I stop them taking my villages ?
All this , after an extensive overview of defensive strategy . I tell them so .
Them: Aw, this game sucks . I'll go play xyz .

Thank god I've trained my younger brother tho be a real player of AOE 2 . All his friends don't even know the names of the buildings .

I , and my friends , are approx 15 yrs of age . That says a LOT about the way people percieve games here in India .

There are a few notable exceptions , though .

	29-07-2003 11:42									#23
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my sister showed an interest in the original Age of Empires (she was 12 at the time) and tried her hand one time playing a random map. she built a few clubmen and sent them exploring but was attacked by an army of chariots and cavalry and then never played a strategy game again.

	29-07-2003 11:45									#24
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It helps weed out the "OMGWTF OMG TIS DUD ATAKED ME I HAD 3 WARRORS BT HE HAD LIK 600BILLION IMMORTAL" people.

	29-07-2003 11:45									#25
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3 of my siblings play strategy games and rpgs to varying degrees

actually, my younger brother no longer plays, but that is just because he is too into doing outdoors stuff and finds that playing lufia or civ2 is not as good a use of his time

Jon Miller

	29-07-2003 11:47									#26
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I admit, my older brother and younger sister just like killing games (they usually play on cheiftan)

my older brother can beat games at tougher difficulties (of the two of us, he beat the original civ on emperor first), but enjoys playing on the lower levels

Jon Miller

	29-07-2003 11:50									#27
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1.

	29-07-2003 11:53									#28
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my problem with Civ 2 and CtP 2 is that you can never seem to have peace. i guess the designers wanted to make it more fun or something by having there be a lot of wars and having the AI never want to have peace with you but frankly, wars in those games are annoying as ****. battles are very abstract and are a hassle... nothing fun about them... i would have much more fun colonizing the world and researching all the technologies but i can never seem to get past 1000 AD before getting frustrated with the constant wars

another thing is that those games operate on the opposite of what history shows us advances civilization. playing on the world map, european and middle eastern civs never advance because they have so much contact with other groups and end up devoting all their resources to building armies and are further harmed by having half their cities razed. the Zulu on the other hand, got all of Africa to theyselves and never have to compete for resources on an entire continent.


thanks

	29-07-2003 12:07									#29
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I thnk the Freeciv people are in the process of implementing tech leakage, which means that if neighboring civ has a tech it requires less research for you to get it. I'm not sure though. Even without tech leakage Freeciv is better than civ2, partly because of the pathfinding algorithm.

	29-07-2003 12:46									#30
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Over 15 people, including my brother. I know a lot of people who play games but most of them play the popular FPS and RTS games.