31-07-2003 07:15									#1
	HP's Unix beats Windows in server test Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

http://news.com.com/2100-1010_3-5057972.html?tag=fd_top

GO UNIX!!! GO UNIX!!! GO UNIX!!!

	31-07-2003 07:24									#2
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Where has Asher been?

	31-07-2003 07:26									#3
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

GO UNIX!!! GO UNIX!!! GO UNIX!!!

Did you use the banana tag in the poll?

	31-07-2003 07:33									#4
	Support Apolyton

It had better outperform the Windows box, it costs over near two million dollars more!

Go Unix, Go Unix.

The sad state of your troll says more for your desperation than anything else.

	31-07-2003 07:36									#5
	Got spare money?

All this shows is Unix is far less economical...

Windows Price/tpmC: $7.16 US
Unix: $8.28 US

It's also not exactly a fair comparison:
The Unix machine had 55 client computers to help it, the Windows machine had 32.

	31-07-2003 08:04									#6
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Everyone knows *nix is better for servers.

That doesn't mean it's better for everything.

For example, I'm willing to bet that less than 5% of America knows what Unix is. Windows still is better for the millions of computer-illiterate Americans.

	31-07-2003 08:09									#7
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I'm willing to bet that if Windows MYSTERIOUSLY disappeared from my computer and was replaced by Unix,

1: I wouldn't be able to get on.
2: Even if I were able to, all my programs would cease to work
3: I'd have to format and install Windows again.

Very bad troll.

	31-07-2003 08:16									#8
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

That is because you were trained to use windoze and only windoze. windoze users are trained to be able to use windoze and nothing else. If they are forced to use something else they are completely helpless. If windoze ever dies then windoze users will be **** out of luck. If Unix dies, Unix users will adapt quickly.

	31-07-2003 08:17									#9
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

geeslaka, you are not aware of the fact that a good 95% of America is simply a bunch of morons. Could you train a gorilla to use Unix?

	31-07-2003 08:22									#10
	Full PM-box? Change here!

Americans train grunts to use very advanced weaponry all the time.
You could train a gorilla to use Unix.

Having a gorilla teach itself to use Unix is another thing, however.

	31-07-2003 08:47									#11
	Support Apolyton

On the contrary mrmitchell, I am made painfully aware of it in my computer science class every school day.

	31-07-2003 10:15									#12
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

I refuse to believe that HP makes any product that is any good. My current laptop, which I bought from them broke after less than 6 months of use and had to be sent away for repairs.

	31-07-2003 14:13									#13
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Terrible troll

	31-07-2003 17:02									#14
	Get a bigger avatar today!

--"The Unix machine had 55 client computers to help it, the Windows machine had 32."

The clients don't "help" the server, they put load on it...

Wraith
"Hello. My $NAME is ~inigo-montoya. You killed my process. Prepare to vi."
-- The Unix's Bride

	31-07-2003 17:56									#15
	Tired of ads?

quote: Originally posted by Wraith The clients don't "help" the server, they put load on it...

They feed the server, and if you can feed the server faster, it can probably do more.

	31-07-2003 19:40									#16
	Get a bigger avatar today!

troll! fun fun fun

asereje ja deje
dejebe tu dejebe
deseri iowa a mavy
an de bugui an de guidibidi
a sereje ja deje
dejebe tu dejebe
deseri iowa a mavy
an de bugui an de guidibidi

	31-07-2003 21:25									#17
	Increase the size of your Attachments

quote: Originally posted by Frozzy Terrible troll

Blah blah blah. Whatever.

It's just a news article. Get over it!

	31-07-2003 21:40									#18
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Exactly, Cloud9.

It's a news article that shows Unix is more expensive, and when coupled with more clients to feed information to the server faster, it'll do more.

	01-08-2003 03:41									#19
	Increase the size of your Attachments

--"They feed the server, and if you can feed the server faster, it can probably do more."

You don't understand what they're doing, do you? Sorry, but the number of terminals used is one of the factors they control. Higher end systems are required by the benchmark to use more terminals.

I'm not sure you're too clear on how database loads work out, either. A small number of clients can put a full read load on the database if you choose the calls carefully. Writing to the database is likely to hit a wall long before the read will, so even fewer clients are required. This benchmark, however, is modeled on a real-world situation. Their simulation is write-heavy, which means the number of clients is going to quickly become irrelevant as the disk i/o on the server becomes the limiting factor.

Wraith
"Very Educational!"
-- Kintaro Oe ("Golden Boy")

	02-08-2003 21:01									#20
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

* Urban Ranger laughs hysterically at Glonkie's proud display of ignorance.

	02-08-2003 21:39									#21
	Tired of ads?

Who's glonkie?

	02-08-2003 21:46									#22
	Increase Your PM Length

Asher

	02-08-2003 21:55									#23
	Suffering from ads?

"My daddy can beat up your daddy!"

"No, my daddy can beat up your daddy!!!"

"Can not!"

"Can too!"

"Can not!"

"Can too!"

"Can not!"

"Can too!"

"Can not!"

"Can too!"

"Poopoo head!"

"Teacher! He called me a bad name!"



That's about how you guys sound with these trolls.

	02-08-2003 21:56									#24
	Get a bigger avatar today!

Yeah, but my daddy really can beat up his daddy!

	02-08-2003 22:14									#25
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Can not!

	03-08-2003 01:20									#26
	Get a bigger avatar today!

MTG, skywalker, Frustrated Poet: You guys really crack me up!

	03-08-2003 03:29									#27
	Increase the size of your Attachments

Clients have to nothing to contribute to the server performance. Maybe Asher is confusing the number of processors in the system with clients? A 32-way system means it has 32 processors, not 32 clients.

	03-08-2003 06:50									#28
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: Originally posted by Lord Merciless Clients have to nothing to contribute to the server performance. Maybe Asher is confusing the number of processors in the system with clients? A 32-way system means it has 32 processors, not 32 clients.

No, not 32 processors. There were 32 clients on the Windows system, yes, but each client had 2 processors each, which makes it 64 processors total. But if you look at the Unix system you will notice that it has 55 clients, but only 1 processor for each system for a total of only 55 processors.

Hope this clears things up.

	03-08-2003 08:45									#29
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

What are you talking about? The comparison is about HP Superdome running 2 different OSes. The processor is Madison and there are 64 of them in the system, which is the standard configuration for a Superdome server.

Besides, you showed that you absolutely don't understand how Superdome is put together. A 64-way Superdome is made up of 2 racks(boxes), each rack has 8 cellboards, and each cellboard has 4 processors and 1 chipset. All cellboards are connected through something called "backplane".

It doesn't surprise me that Superdome is better customized to run HP Unix because its chipsets have their roots from the old PA age. In addition, Superdome is still compatible to the HP PA processors as the new PA8800 will have the same bus as Madison.