31-07-2003 18:12									#1
	How About That Dontrelle Willis ? Sava. Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Won the pitching duel against Randy Johnson.
How the flash-in-the-pan pulled off such a thing, I'll never understand.

	31-07-2003 18:14									#2
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I saw the first 3 innings last night. Got the rest on tape and was going to watch it this evening.
Thanks Sloww.

	31-07-2003 18:19									#3
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Enjoy watching Willis kick ass.

	31-07-2003 18:19									#4
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet I saw the first 3 innings last night. Got the rest on tape and was going to watch it this evening. Thanks Sloww.

Happens a lot in the boxing fourms/NG's, I'm getting them trained though

	31-07-2003 18:36									#5
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In other news, the Braves lead has been cut to a disquieting 10.5 games in the NLeast, and they only hold the best record in Baseball by just 2 games over the SF Giants.

Not that any of that will help us in the post-season... though this year I have hope as the Braves have been a more well-rounded team this year than in previous years past. I just hope our middle relievers can hold out another 3 months.

	31-07-2003 21:59									#6
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And the Ranger pitching struggles.
Wait. That's old news.

	31-07-2003 22:07									#7
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Willis is going to be the next great pitcher in the league.

	31-07-2003 22:23									#8
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will be??? already is

i still like prior better, too bad about that collision that's put him on the DL

good to see unit back too

the NL wildcard is gonna be INTENSE this year.... right now 9 teams within 6 games, plus the NL central, and the AL central too now that white sox pitchers are finally pitching like they should

and then theres the AL east and AL west.... 4 great teams competing for 3 spots in the playoffs M's/A's/yanks/bosox

	31-07-2003 22:25									#9
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quote: will be??? already is

Not yet! You gotta at least do this for 3 years straight to be considered the 'next great pitcher'. After all Brandon Webb is also putting up stunning numbers, and Prior has shown that he's got the goods as well.

Not to mention Cy Young Award Winner Zito.

Willis has farther to climb to be the 'next great pitcher'.

	31-07-2003 22:28									#10
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Willis is a flash in the pan... the league will catch up to him next year. That's been my position all along.

	31-07-2003 22:28									#11
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quote: In other news, the Braves lead has been cut to a disquieting 10.5 games in the NLeast, and they only hold the best record in Baseball by just 2 games over the SF Giants.

THANK YOU JOHNT! Major braves fan too and what i love is that how no one gave them a chance this year because of the pitching losses...but the offense has made up for it and more really.

Ya the NL central could be close because they are all awful. The Astros are my #2 behind the Braves and they will prob win it but they cant get out of the first round of the playoffs.

Braves to win the World Series: 6-1
Astros to win the World Series: 15-1

	31-07-2003 22:30									#12
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quote: and then theres the AL east and AL west.... 4 great teams competing for 3 spots in the playoffs M's/A's/yanks/bosox

Sadly its gonan be the BoSox to get the shaft outta the wildcard by the A's

	31-07-2003 22:39									#13
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And just like most of your opinions, you're wrong, Sava.

	31-07-2003 22:40									#14
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And like most of my opinions....they are correct

	31-07-2003 22:43									#15
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You didn't say anything about Willis.
I guess that's no more wrong than right.

	31-07-2003 22:51									#16
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NO! The Red Sox are going to win the division, and the A's will take the wildcard.

	31-07-2003 22:56									#17
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Just keep saying that "This is the year for the Sox, this is the year for the sox"...i love em they are my AL team but its not gonna happen...the curse is already setting in. September will come and the record will take a shot

	31-07-2003 22:59									#18
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This year they've made some quality moves though. Solidifying the bullpen and all. There are talks they may be getting Garcia in a three way deal with the Reds (Cincy sending Boone to Seattle, who sends Garcia to the Red Sox, who send Fossum and Youklis to the Reds). AND they have the best offense in baseball by far!

	31-07-2003 22:59									#19
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I believe ur overlooking the Atlanta Braves Imran

	31-07-2003 23:04									#20
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I don't think he is.

Go Sox!

	31-07-2003 23:13									#21
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quote: I believe ur overlooking the Atlanta Braves Imran

I'm not. The Red Sox have the best offense in 50 years, IIRC.. when you look at total bases and batting average. They may have cooled a bit in recent weeks, but at the All-Star Break they had EIGHT regulars in their lineup batting over .300. Millar was only batting .290, IIRC.

	31-07-2003 23:14									#22
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quote: Not yet! You gotta at least do this for 3 years straight to be considered the 'next great pitcher'.

same thing with Pujols as well, one great year does not make you Barry Bonds

	31-07-2003 23:15									#23
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They are only 2.5 games behind the Yankees, and they play each other 7 more times until the end of the year. After the series with the rangers, they face baltimore, anaheim, toronto, and Tampa Bay for a combined 26 games, seatlle and the A's for a combined 14 games, and 7 games against Cleavland and the White Sox. Its a pretty easy schedual.

	31-07-2003 23:17									#24
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower same thing with Pujols as well, one great year does not make you Barry Bonds

What does 3 great years make you?

	31-07-2003 23:19									#25
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3 years gives you a shot at being the next Barry Bonds

	31-07-2003 23:20									#26
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Let's compare shall we?

Batting Average
BOS - .294
ATL - .285

On Base Percentage
BOS - .363
ATL - .352

Slugging Percentage
BOS - .504
ATL - .481

Runs
BOS - 660
ATL - 613

Total Bases
BOS - 1928
ATL - 1807

Hey, Atlanta is a great hitting team (they have more HRs than Boston).. but Boston does have the better offense.

	31-07-2003 23:23									#27
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quote: 3 years gives you a shot at being the next Barry Bonds

Yep .

There are a lot of examples in baseball history where a player was great for 3-5 years and then got injured or just tailed off. One of the more famous modern examples is Don Mattingly.

	31-07-2003 23:25									#28
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THe Sox need just two more elements: another good starting pitcher, and a closer, and they are set to go.

	31-07-2003 23:33									#29
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They got a Closer... two actually .

Kim and, now, Williamson.

	31-07-2003 23:34									#30
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They arnt using either as a closer.