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Dom Pedro II
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The College of New Jersey
Nov 1999 time: 05:29
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Hey, everybody... Oerdin's thread made me think of something I've been debating for a few weeks now....
I have absolutely no interest joining the Army, Navy, Airforce, or Marines. In my opinion, our military shouldn't be anywhere but HERE. I don't like the idea of getting called up to fight for something I don't believe in. I'm a journalism major, and I'd gladly go to a foreign front and get my ass blown away reporting the truth before I'd pick up a gun and shoot at somebody for no other reason than defending their home or themselves.
Not to mention the fact that I can't stand this glorification of the military thing... I feel like that for EUROPE. Here in America, we sort of distrusted the military in the beginning, and now we've sort of become just as Imperial as any of the Euro countries of Old.
On the other hand, I do feel a slight patriotic tugging, and I see nothing wrong with defending the homeland. I'd gladly die for my country, but I've always taken that to mean to die for MY country, not somebody else's... So I was thinking about the Coast Guard (and I WAS thinking about the National Guard until even they were possibilities for getting sent to Iraq).
Soooo I think I'm pretty much limited to the Coast Guard. Which the only thing I'd have qualms with there would be the drug war and scuttling floating chevies...
Anyway, what do you think I should do? And should I go into the Coast Guard, or is there some other branch that only deals with defending America/rescue, etc.?
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Lonestar
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AECCP Dark Lord of the Sith
Aug 2000 time: 00:29
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Dom Pedro
I hat to tell you man, but 10 of the 16 or so USCG Deep Water cutters went to the middle east.
However Being Coastie means, for the most part you feel like you're actually accomplishing something. You're actually rescueing people. You're actually stopping drugrunners. You're actually turning away a boatload of Haitian Refugees (well, maybe that doesn't feel good).
During "peacetime", the USCG probably works the hardest, but you get many of the same bennies as with the USN. Sea pay, lots of MWR activities, etc. Also, the Armed Services have more ways for you to become an officer(post or pre enlistment) than you can shake a stick at. ROTC. Acadamy. OCS. ECP (where you just go to college...and get comissioned afterwards! No Acadamy or ROTC BS).
If you just want to do a single tour with no re-enlistment, work on your college degree while enlisted. The USCG and USN pay for all tuition while you're enlisted. You only have to pay for books, and there are methods of reducing that too.
If you join the USCG you'll be given what's called a "Rate", what your job is. Personally, I recommend whatever the Coastie equilivant of "Master-at-Arms" (re: Military Police) is. It's a tight rate in every service, and there are huge bonuses and advancement oppurtunities.
You'll meet a bunch of people you probably wouldn't have met if you stay in the civilian world. This is both good and bad. Good because it makes you more aware of different people, and maybe even getting you a few friends. Bad because you'll be awake at night wondering why the Hell those Deck Seaman won't shut the Hell up when you're trying to get 4 hrs of sleep before it's your turn at watch.
I would recommend either the Coast Guard or the USN.
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Lonestar
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AECCP Dark Lord of the Sith
Aug 2000 time: 00:29
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident
surely you are kidding about cell phones 
I can't imagine how pussified the boot camps are. Even the navy boot camp was pretty weak. About halfway through mine we didn't have to carry rifles anymore (hey those things get heavy when the CC's?- I can't remember the term- make you hold them in the air in your outstretched arms for hours). |
Rifles? We don't need no steenkin rifles!
USN bootcamp is drifting more and more towards basic edujamaction rather than discipline, I'd say. About a week before graduation, we have what's Called "Battlestations" which is...f--king awesome. You spend all night running around the base going to station to station doing events based upon what you learned in Boot Camp. If you ask anyone who did it, they'll tell you "Mass Casulties" (Cole attack sim) was the most stressful and fun.
Right now Univeresial is building this monster os a shipsimulator that'll be where battlestations takes place. Firefighting, line landing, hurricanes, terrorist attack, missile strike, gun crew, etc. for 48 hrs. The "Ship" is going to be named after John Wayne. Hooyah!
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I wonder if they even do the gas chamber anymore. Though I can't say **** about that. I got out of that because I was on watch at the time |
"We don't gas people in the navy, this is the confidence chamber! It helps you build confidence that the gasmasks you're issued will protect you! Now take them off!"
*hack, ach, phhppt snort, blegh spew dribble. Christ.*
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st_swithin
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10069
Nov 2002 time: 05:29
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Hey some of us were unlucky enough to be born red-green colour blind and thus are 'ineligible' to even apply to the Air Force.
Me, I think I prefer the NF these days - not too many rules, and you always know what the agenda is. There isn't any NEW agenda, is there, lads? I mean, what more do we have to talk about anyway?
Minute from last NF meeting:
"Fvck you, fvck you, fvck you, you're cool, fvck you..."
I'm out.
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