05-08-2003 13:14									#1
	Settler II has only 512MB RAM? Got spare money?

In DanQ's column he states that "Settler II", the apolyton server, is a dual Xeon 2.0GHz processor with 512MB RAM.

Why use all the money for a dual Xeon, but only 512MB RAM? I have heard in my database class (from one of my university teachers who make a living tuning databases) that the amount of RAM is perhaps the most influencial factor in database performance.

Since the apolyton website and in particular the apolyton forums are database backed I would think that an extra 512MB RAM would give a nice performance increase for a relatively quite small investment.

	05-08-2003 13:51									#2
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Indeed, that was my initial remark when ACS was back online after the crash of Settler, but back then nobody seemed to take me seriously as usually.

	05-08-2003 14:00									#3
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hi ,

and then to say that ram can be cheap nowadays , ......


panag wonders if some of his ram would fit in settler , .......


have a nice day

	05-08-2003 14:15									#4
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RAM is dirt cheap nowadays.

	05-08-2003 17:29									#5
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Depends on what ram you are using.

Non-brand RAM IS cheap, but I assume that you want quality for Settler II, rght? With EEC correction and whatnot they are not as cheap as you think.

Still something to consider, that's whare these donations could be used for.
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	05-08-2003 17:36									#6
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If we could get an address for Apolyton, we could raise our money for RAM and just mail the stick to them. 2.0 GHz is a 133MHz motherboard, right?

	05-08-2003 17:53									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Harry Seldon If we could get an address for Apolyton, we could raise our money for RAM and just mail the stick to them. 2.0 GHz is a 133MHz motherboard, right?

hi ,

can be higher , Asuka , do you have all the specs , .....

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	05-08-2003 17:53									#8
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No, no, no!!!

You get it wrong, Harry. First of all Settler II = Dell PowerEdge 1750 with 2x Intel Xeon 2 GHz, 512 MB ECC DDR-266, 73 GB SCSI HDD, which means it requires an additional (1x) 512 MB ECC DDR-266 DIMM memory module. Can be obtained via RackShack, I would presume.

Now, should we send a memory module by mail, Dan?

	05-08-2003 18:05									#9
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hi ,

what the heck , .....


that think supports up to 8 gig's of ram and only has a small fraction of it , .......

sjee , them old mac g4's in the office have more ram then that , ......

a Q , who owns that prehistoric server

at least 2 gigs should be on board

actually , that hard drive is to small and to slow also ( rpm ) , ....

, ........

would some one please point out to dell that that server aint easy to manage , ......

have a nice day

	05-08-2003 19:45									#10
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I wondered too. I suppose Dan knows what he's doing...

	05-08-2003 19:45									#11
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The board may support that much but does the OS? I may can get a discount on a stick of Simple RAM with no ECC. Want me to check?

quote: Settler II = Dell PowerEdge 1750 with 2x Intel Xeon 2 GHz, 512 MB ECC DDR-266, 73 GB SCSI HDD, which means it requires an additional (1x) 512 MB ECC DDR-266 DIMM memory module. Can be obtained via RackShack, I would presume.

My bad; we're a compaq proliant shop. Dell's corporate service sucks.

	05-08-2003 21:24									#12
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Actually GNU/Linux does support well larger amounts of RAM, so it should not be an issue. The server runs Red Hat Linux 9.0.

	06-08-2003 01:23									#13
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he should simply set up a god damned paypal account for more ram. i think he'd get more money than greeko's store over there.

	06-08-2003 02:32									#14
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	06-08-2003 02:41									#15
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BUT WHERE TO?

	06-08-2003 02:44									#16
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quote: Originally posted by MattH BUT WHERE TO?

hi ,

well someone could collect it and then either go to Greece or to Canada , ..... or both , ....

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	06-08-2003 04:13									#17
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Hmm, even if that was to happen, I repeat..

WHERE TO???

	06-08-2003 04:30									#18
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Oh you people are so clueless. I have actually once sent mail to Dan as Finnish express mail, so his address isn't that secret. Dunno about Markos' address. But I wouldn't recommend sending money or any items such as RAM modules to Dan, without his consent, because he has quite clearly stated that he doesn't want your dosh now. It would actually be quite rude, wouldn't it? Especially as he has said no.

	06-08-2003 06:38									#19
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God Damn It, he'll take our money and like it!

	06-08-2003 06:50									#20
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If only the Tax-man here was so picky...

	06-08-2003 09:34									#21
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quote: Originally posted by panag actually , that hard drive is to small and to slow also ( rpm )

RPM isn't what it all cracked up to be. The overall transfer rate is much more important. Since it's a SCSI Ultra320 drive it can't be all that slow.

	06-08-2003 13:38									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Asuka But I wouldn't recommend sending money or any items such as RAM modules to Dan, without his consent, because he has quite clearly stated that he doesn't want your dosh now. It would actually be quite rude, wouldn't it? Especially as he has said no.

Wise words from Rasbelin.

(for once! )

	06-08-2003 14:29									#23
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Whilst Dan may not want your money, RAM modules or anything else, rest assured that I will more than gladly accept them on his behalf.

	06-08-2003 15:06									#24
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , what the heck , ..... that think supports up to 8 gig's of ram and only has a small fraction of it , ....... sjee , them old mac g4's in the office have more ram then that , ...... a Q , who owns that prehistoric server at least 2 gigs should be on board actually , that hard drive is to small and to slow also ( rpm ) , .... , ........ would some one please point out to dell that that server aint easy to manage , ...... have a nice day

Nice try Panag, but I don't think the owners will be switching to Mac anytime soon They do need to save money, ya know?

	06-08-2003 15:27									#25
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quote: Whilst Dan may not want your money, RAM modules or anything else, rest assured that I will more than gladly accept them on his behalf.

Nice try Paul, but somehow I don't think people will be sending their hardware or money to you.

On-topic: Increasing the RAM only helps if the server currently rams into the limit on a regular basis. If I've been listening correctly, the problem is too many connections lasting too long. With that the case, only solutions that decrease either the length or number of connections will help.

	06-08-2003 15:53									#26
	Got spare money?

If a person cannot lift 1000 pounds, either decrease the weight, or increase the strength.

Or both.

	06-08-2003 16:19									#27
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet Wise words from Rasbelin. (for once! )

With enough monkeys and enough type-writers.........................

	06-08-2003 19:08									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Asuka Oh you people are so clueless. I have actually once sent mail to Dan as Finnish express mail, so his address isn't that secret. Dunno about Markos' address. But I wouldn't recommend sending money or any items such as RAM modules to Dan, without his consent, because he has quite clearly stated that he doesn't want your dosh now. It would actually be quite rude, wouldn't it? Especially as he has said no.

hi ,

what would he do if the ram where to arrive on his doorstep without return address , ......

have a nice day

	06-08-2003 20:08									#29
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quote: Originally posted by geeslaka quote: Whilst Dan may not want your money, RAM modules or anything else, rest assured that I will more than gladly accept them on his behalf. Nice try Paul, but somehow I don't think people will be sending their hardware or money to you.

You can't blame a guy for trying.

	07-08-2003 17:43									#30
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet (for once!)