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Polk, OTOH, was a legitimate pick. His Presidency oversaw the largest land area expansion in US history. |
What about the guy who bought the Louisiana Purchase?
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PLATO
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Of the occupied South
Dec 2002
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Dom Pedro:
"Texas had been annexed to the United States, but Mexico had not recognized the annexation. Mexico insisted that the Nueces River was the legal boundary between Mexico and Texas. The Texans, supported by Polk, insisted that Texas extended to the Rio Grande.
In May, 1846, after a clash between Mexican and American troops, Congress recognized the existence of a state of war "by act of the Republic of Mexico". The war with Mexico (1846 - 1848) ended after more than a year of fighting and Mexico ceded Texas to the United States."
Sprayber:
"During the Polk administration over 800,000 square miles of territory were acquired by the United States. Three new states were admitted to the Union; Texas in 1845, Iowa in 1846, and Wisconsin in 1848. Oregon was organized as a territory in 1848. In 1849 California, although no yet admitted to the Union, organized its own government. During these years the Mormon state of Utah was established and settled."
Couldn't find an exact number but it at least looks close to the LP if not greater.
Source:
http://www.pinevillenc.net/polk.html
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mrmitchell
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Dom Pedro: Nations will be nations. If they want to declare war, do so--at least they didn't try to cover it up like the ****ers do today with **** like "womd" when they should just be saying "**** you"
EDIT: I'd rather disagree with honest politicians than agree with ones that try to politicise and all that bullshit
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Soul Survivor
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UChicago
May 2003
time: 05:30
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1. Jefferson
2. T. Roosevelt
3. Eisenhower, it would probably be Nixon if not for one mishap
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David Floyd
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The bottom of a large bottle of beer
Jan 1970
time: 05:30
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I can't name a single President who I can call "good", with a clear conscience. I would say I prefer Calvin Coolidge over most, though.
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Deity Dude
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Westland, Michigan
Aug 2000
time: 00:30
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Before I answer, I just wonder why the years were broken up they way they were. 1790-2003 is 213 years. Divide that by 3 and you get 3, 71 year periods. So why not 1790-1861 1861-1932 1932-2003. Having said that, I'll answer the question as asked.
1) Washington (put just about any of his contemporaries in his position and we'd be a monarchy today)
2) T. Roosevelt
3) Reagan
Now how about the worst for each of those periods.
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It doesn't matter what your name is!
Feb 2000
time: 00:30
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Best
1790-1877 Washington
1878-1945 Wilson
1946-2003 LBJ
Worst
1790-1877 Adams
1878-1945 Harding
1946-2003 Reagan
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So he starts a war with Mexico, steals a bunch of land, and we applaud his efforts....
I'm thrilled such belligerent men are held in such high esteem... |
The thing about Polk is, he was honest. These are the things he ran on...aquisition of Texas and the Oregon territory being the big ones...and then he didn't run for another term even though he could have with ease after promising he wouldn't before being elected in the first place. As far as honesty goes, I think that's pretty damn good.
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mrmitchell
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Before I answer, I just wonder why the years were broken up they way they were. 1790-2003 is 213 years. Divide that by 3 and you get 3, 71 year periods. So why not 1790-1861 1861-1932 1932-2003. Having said that, I'll answer the question as asked. |
1790 - 1876 is America all the way up to Reconstruction. 1877 - 1945 is that weird time in between then and the major part of the Cold War. 1946 - 2003 is "Post World War II", a common era breakage used to study, say, economic trends. Of course, there could be more divisions, but there is a need to keep it simple, or else we'll have all the phDs running out and crushing us all.
Worst
1790 - 1876...probably John Adams (either one of them.) I seem to think of them as real politicised bastards.
1877 - 1945...odd. None of the Presidents of this period tend to stand out as asses.
1946 - 2003...Reagan. He gets way too much credit for really not doing much more than being an old fart with occasional blurts about the USSR. Also, without him, we wouldn't be able to call it "Reaganomics".
(Nixon might be as bad, but a lot of good jokes are at him. Bush also ain't all that great, but while it's possible, I'd like this thread to stay simple. Bushbashing always takes a lot of hard thinking    )
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And those of you who think Franklin d'Elanor Roosevelt got us out of the depression are wrong. He made a whole series of mistakes both early and late that actually prolonged it. World War Two ended the depression in the United States, ten years after Roosevelt was elected. |
Roosevelt championed a lot of economic reforms that had not been seriously thought of before. Without them, we'd have had another Great Depression by now, or a lot of honest decent hardworking people would be screwed over in some way or other.
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Oh, and Kennedy has to rate as one of the worst presidents of the modern era, making the pathetic hero worship of him (especially when I was a kid) all the more ironic / moronic. |
You're kidding, aren't you?
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