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Shi Huangdi
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Pittsburgh, PA
Apr 1999
time: 00:30
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"The Archbishop of cantebury should have the guts to support this."
I don't know much about Rowan Williams, do you think he will support this? I think he is supposed to be pretty liberal, but the news says he is also very concerned with the unity of the Anglican Communion.
Anyway, On a semi-related note, apparently in spite of the avlanch of victories for gay rights we have seen lately, we are now seeing some backlash.
From foxnews:
"In the most recent poll, conducted July 25 through July 27, 48 percent of respondents said homosexual relations between consenting adults should be legal, compared to a record high of 60 percent in May. When asked if homosexuality should be considered an acceptable lifestyle, 54 percent agreed in May, but only 46 percent said so in July.
On the issue of giving same-sex couples the right to enter into civil unions, 40 percent in July said they should, compared with 49 percent two months ago."
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Dr Strangelove
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The conservative dioceses in Africa and Asia will come to their senses when they realise that PECUSA contributes the lion's share of the Anglican Communion's funding. About one-quarter of the American bishops have sent a petition to the Anglican Communion asking for intervention. If they're willing to go through official channels then I doubt that they're ready to break away. If the Anglican Communion recognises the minority groups demands then they risk forcing the main body of PECUSA to leave the AC, and if that happens many of those conservative dioceses in Africa and Asia will find themselves without funding. I'm pretty sure that the Archbishop is well aware of the situation. You also have to consider that the CoE is after all under the control of Parliament. Does Tony Blair want to have himself associated with an incident of gay bashing?
BTW, I already started a thread on this subject.
Last edited by Dr Strangelove on 07-08-2003 at 17:12
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C0ckney
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Big Up The Macedonian Massive
Apr 2000
time: 05:30
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rowan williams has been saying that the churches in the developing world shouldn't rush into judgement and should 'think long and hard' about this issue.
from a personal point of view, i would think (and hope) that there are more pressing issues facing the church today and that more energy should be channeled into addressing things falling attendences and less into arguements about things like this.
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CerberusIV
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As far as the UK is concerned, I wonder when we will get round to the real issue, disestablishing the C of E.
After all, 71.7% of people who answered the 2001 census described themselves as Christian but 71.7% of the population of this country are certainly not in church every Sunday. So do they care about whether a bishop is gay or not since they don't practice their professed religion in an organised way to start with.
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mrmitchell
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As an Episcopalian, let me state, I don't know why the **** it matters.
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CerberusIV
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If the African and Asian churches do split from the US Episcopalians (and possibly from the C of E if Williams doesn't condemn the US appointment) who will actually notice?
OK, the bishops won't be able to go to the same conferences perhaps but other than that?
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CerberusIV
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Williams has done something. He's called a meeting - in October.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3135237.stm
Actually this is a good move because it will probably make it quite difficult for anyone to do anything significant before then.
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07-08-2003 15:38
the wisest comment in this entire thread! 
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