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SlowwHand is offline SlowwHand
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If you'll remember, there was a female poster here who lost a brother in this blast.
She may have been back since, but I've not seen her.
I'm glad the bastard's set to die.
THAT'S worth a



57 minutes ago

By LELY T. DJUHARI, Associated Press Writer

BALI, Indonesia - An Indonesian militant laughed and gave a thumbs-up sign as a court sentenced him to death by firing squad Thursday for his role in the Bali bombings, the first verdict in the attack that killed 202 people.


Hundreds of people in the courtroom, including survivors of the bombings, cheered when the judge read the sentence against Amrozi bin Nurhasyim, who has been named the "smiling bomber" by the Indonesian press for his defiantly jolly demeanor during the trial.

After the judge read the guilty verdict and sentence, the 41-year-old mechanic threw his arms in the air and gave his lawyers the thumbs-up sign. He then swiveled his chair, looked at the gallery and raised his fist in defiance.

As he was led out of the courtroom, Amrozi smiled broadly at Australian survivors, some of whom jeered and heckled him. Australia lost 88 people in the Oct. 12 vehicle bomb and suicide bombing at two popular nightclubs in a resort town on Bali island.

Amrozi, an alleged member of the region-wide militant group Jemaah Islamiyah, was found guilty of planning and helping execute the bombings. About three dozen other suspects from the al-Qaida-linked Jemaah are on trial or facing trial for the attacks.

"The accused is found guilty in a legal and convincing manner of carrying out an act of terrorism," Judge I Made Karna said.

The verdict and tough sentence could help end Indonesia's reputation as a being reluctant to go after militants. But there are fears the trials of Amrozi and others could spark new attacks.

On Tuesday, a car bomb exploded at the Marriott Hotel in Jakarta, killing at least 10 people and wounding nearly 150. Jemaah Islamiyah is suspected in the attack.

Australian-born Indonesian Natalie Juniardi, whose Indonesian husband died in the Bali attack, wept after the verdict was read.

"I will only be happy when all of them are put to death," she said. "I look at my two young children and I see my husband's face," said Juniardi, 29, who was pregnant with her second child when her husband was killed.

Australian Prime Minister John Howard hailed the outcome of the trial. "I'm sure I speak for all Australians in welcoming the guilty verdict," Howard told a press conference in Canberra.

But some survivors and relatives of victims said they opposed the death sentence, saying it would bring more attacks.

"I would hate to think that somebody's life was going to be taken in my son's name," Brian Deegan, an Australian magistrate whose 22-year-old son Josh died in the bombings. "I suspect that this will in many respects backfire and is going to create a lot more mischief and a lot more misery."

A British group representing the family of 22 of those killed in Bali urged Indonesian authorities not to execute Amrozi, saying, "We don't want him to become a martyr."

Indonesia's government has been eager to show the world that it is committed to bringing the perpetrators to justice.

Prosecutors said Amrozi purchased a van and explosives used in the car bomb that flattened Bali's crowded Sari Club and nearby Paddy's Bar.

Although Indonesian law allows for death sentences to be handed down for crimes such as murder and terrorism, in practice executions are rare.




Amrozi's attorney, Wirawan Adnan, said they will appeal the sentence "not because we believe he is innocent, but because he was mistreated and was not been given a fair trial. We do not believe that he deserves the death penalty, he was not the mastermind."

Most of Bali's 3 million people are Hindu, unlike the rest of Indonesia's 207 million people who are predominantly Muslim. Several of the alleged bombers said they picked the venue to kill as many Westerners as possible to avenge the treatment of fellow Muslims in other parts of the world.

Prosecutors allege the Bali strike was part of a campaign by Jemaah Islamiyah to set up a fundamentalist Islamic state in Southeast Asia.

Police said Thursday they were searching for more Jemaah members — though they declined to blame the group for Tuesday's Marriott bombing until investigations brought firmer evidence.

"We are intensifying the hunt for these people. We have pictures of them, and they were involved in the Bali and other bombings," chief of detectives Erwin Mappaseng told reporters.

Investigators were trying to identify the driver of the explosives-laden van used in the Marriott attack, analyzing blood and DNA samples from body parts found inside the vehicle as well as footage from security cameras at the hotel.

Police Thursday released a photo showing a severed head found at the scene believed to be that of the driver of the bomb-laden vehicle. Police have also issued a composite sketch of the person who allegedly purchased the vehicle.

On Thursday, police said they had arrested two people in Jakarta a day earlier over three recent bombings in the capital that wounded 11 people. But the pair are not suspected in the Marriott blast.

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Well I'm against the death penalty but I won't be shedding too many tears on this one

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Well I'm against the death penalty but I won't be shedding too many tears on this one


Same here.

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Her name was, something like shmoowithhazing.
Something like that.
Maybe this will help bring some closure to her, and all the other's, family.

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Good. Cut his balls off and shove them up his ass. Then cut his **** off and shove it down his throat. Then after two weeks, cut his throat.

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Oh, I hope to never be sentenced to death by Sava!!

Kill the bum.

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Hell of a lot worse than me hanging someone, isn't it ?

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Hell of a lot worse than me hanging someone, isn't it ?
Well, this guy is guilty. My objection with Texas's justice system is that too many innocents are sentenced to death, AND the death penalty is applied disproportionately to minorities. Start hanging enough crackers, and I'll withdraw my criticisms.

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Again, the Texas courts use lethal injection.
It's only me that would do the hanging.

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Again, the Texas courts use lethal injection.
It's only me that would do the hanging.
Whatever...

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Again, the Texas courts use lethal injection.


Yeah, but hangin' just rolls off the tongue a lot easier than Lethal Injection. It also conjures up images of the good ol' days, before courts and judges... Just a sheriff, a tree, and a good length of sturdy rope...

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Actually, this delusional bastard believes he'll be a martyr, and doesn't mind dying.

I'd rather give him something like life in a tiger pit close to a good tidal zone, with no light in his hole and nobody within earshot to yell at, listen to, or anything else. Throw in a bucket of slop once a day, let the rising tide twice a day take care of sanitation and introduce a new crop of critters, and leave him there.

In that case, "life" wouldn't be too long by our calendars, but damn near eternity by his.

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Do you remember the Poster, Michael?


And I agree that a firing squad is much too easy a death.

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yeah he seemed pretty pleased considering he'd just been sentenced to death. won't be shedding any tears, but can't help but think life imprisionment would have been more of a punishment.

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But some survivors and relatives of victims said they opposed the death sentence, saying it would bring more attacks.


I agree with them on this -- plus, just the principle that I am opposed to the death penalty.

Give him hell through a solitary confined, life imprisonment.

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Give him to the families of the victims.

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Give him to the families of the victims.


That's fine with you, I suppose, given you like "eye for an eye."

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Look at that man smiling? I can't believe it.. I think he doesn't deserve DP.

Life sentence without parole would be good IMO. Next to serial rapists and sex criminals. Blind guards. No lubrication. The love train... all day long, all week long, all year long, all LIFE long.

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That's why I say torture the shitfaced cocksucker!!!

Death is too good... life is too good for him. Hook him up to an IV, give him blood transfusions to keep him alive, and torture him for 10 years... then slit his throat.

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I GOT IT NOW! I got the PERFECT sentence for this guy.

DP. Firing Squad. All bullets tipped in pigs grease. Bye bye heaven..

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That's why I say torture the shitfaced cocksucker!!!

Death is too good... life is too good for him. Hook him up to an IV, give him blood transfusions to keep him alive, and torture him for 10 years... then slit his throat.


Hmmm . . . .

I remember a certain someone in another thread, who complained about emotionalizing.

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One less... But it will not stop terrorism.

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This isn't about emotion, it's about adequate punishment.

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I don't know about giving this guy the death penalty.. if anyone deserves it, surely he does, but look at his eyes, he welcomes death. Probably thinking about the 40 whores Allah is going to provide him with in paradise for his 'great deed'.

If possible, these guys should be, for lack of a better word, defiled in such a way that they believe they're going to hell when they die. Of course, it would be pretty damn hard to try to find something that would make a guy who has been responsible for the death of 200 people believe that. If you don't believe you're going to hell for a crime as heinous as Bali, it's hard to know what would shake him.

I say they should have given him a liftetime in solitary. It probably would have had more of an effect on him. I hear conditions in Indonesian prisons are... not pleasant...

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everybody reacts like as to take revenge; convicting isn't about revenge but about condemning someone and as a sign that that behaviour isn't tolerated by the government.

you shouldn't give him life imprisonment because it would supposedly be worse than death penalty, but because he deserves the worst penalty for his crime and not because of revenge; killing people is immoral so that's why you shouldn't give him the death penalty..

what has revenge ever solved? in like 95% of these cases the violence just worsens and worsens.. check out Israel and Palestine; they kill a few palestinians and destroy some housing and Hamas sends a new suicide bomber, Israel retaliates etc etc...

you guys are fools

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Go back to CFC with all the "smart" people.

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by the way; hello slowwhand! you must have been kinda itchy not having been able to pick on me lately, am I right?


all the way dude! gimme some insults!

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This isn't about emotion, it's about adequate punishment.


Your idea of "adequate" punishment seems to SCREAM emotions of outrage and anger.

Nothing wrong with that -- but you complained in another thread about others emotionalizing over an issue.

 
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