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Mathemagician is offline Mathemagician
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1x1 game #3
turn 69

Math (Earth Liberation Front)
still leads over
David42One (Raging Hordes)

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SL 1x1 game 23 turn 79

yoda in the lead over Milamber.

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Game 26, 1x1 Turn 19
Yoda with a slight lead over Nimrod

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2x2 SomeAssemblyRequired vs. Mockers Revenge
turn 9
Gumpold (SAR) 1st
Flameflash (SAR) 2nd

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quote:
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2x2 SomeAssemblyRequired vs. Mockers Revenge
turn 9
Gumpold (SAR) 1st
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Okay, so you're who was in first...

I've already forgotten who is who in most of my games...

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Congratulations SAR and Mockers. I think that is the 1st 2x2 to make it to turn 9

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1V1 Protoss72000 VS Nimrod
Protoss72000 in lead - turn 9

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1x1 game 10 milamber vs FF milamber hair lead over FF turn 19

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SL 1x1 game 23 turn 89

yoda in the lead over Milamber.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mathemagician
checkmate, have you been using the
"points won : points lost" system already ?
i see that my Earth Liberation Front is on position 1.

how do you intend to handle those 'lost points' for 2:2 games then ?

or is the "points won out of total points" only a statistic, and doesnt count towards position?


The green posts that I have show the total number of
possible points. For example

1x1 games says

" 7 of 12 "

This means that the team won seven 1x1 *9's out of 12 possible *9's. This of course means that they lost 5 out of 12.

For the 2x2 games the total possible points at each *9 is three.

So the first time you finish a *9 in a 2x2 it will be either
0 of 3
1 of 3
2 of 3
or
3 of 3

Next time it will be
"X of 6"

Hope this is clear.

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Okay, so you're who was in first...

I've already forgotten who is who in most of my games...


Just remember before you attack him

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quote:
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1V1 Protoss72000 VS Nimrod
Protoss72000 in lead - turn 9


I didn't realize you guys started your round 2 game !!

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quote:
Originally posted by checkMate


The green posts that I have show the total number of
possible points. For example

1x1 games says

" 7 of 12 "

This means that the team won seven 1x1 *9's out of 12 possible *9's. This of course means that they lost 5 out of 12.

For the 2x2 games the total possible points at each *9 is three.

So the first time you finish a *9 in a 2x2 it will be either
0 of 3
1 of 3
2 of 3
or
3 of 3

Next time it will be
"X of 6"

Hope this is clear.


thanks for the explanation checkmate.
but what i meant was if you based the order of the standings on this consideration, i.e. either the percentage of points won, or the absolute difference between the points won to the possible points.

in other words, are the possible points in any way a criterion for the rankings ?

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The order of the standings is just the same every time.

At the moment the Ancients are in the lead by percentages.

However if you take the limit of 0/0 as infinite, then
SCF has the lead

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Hatchy must have forgot about it despite my reminder so here it is:

Hatchy (Raging Hordes) > Keygen (Ancients)

It is about turn 9 of our 1x1 game.

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quote:
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The order of the standings is just the same every time.

At the moment the Ancients are in the lead by percentages.

However if you take the limit of 0/0 as infinite, then
SCF has the lead


actually i would assume the limit of 0/0 as 1, but then that's just me. the official standpoint of mathematicians is that there is no limit of 0/0.

so, checkMate, if the tie-breakers should become an issue for the league, will the percentage count, the difference or the absolute number of points ?

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I think the average (percentage) would be the most appropriate but there might be a problem if bonus points from fast wins are added. A combination of these two could resolve that, e.g. calculating *9 points as an avarage apart from fast winning points and sum all together.

But according to the rules I think absolute number of points is currently in effect.

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I think the average (percentage) would be the most appropriate but there might be a problem if bonus points from fast wins are added. A combination of these two could resolve that, e.g. calculating *9 points as an avarage apart from fast winning points and sum all together.

But according to the rules I think absolute number of points is currently in effect.


yes. i suggest, until someone comes up with something very plausible, we leave it this way..

however...
if the difference of points won to possible points would count, then there wouldn't be a need for the fast win bonus anymore, since the lower ranked player would be more inclined to concede if he doesnt see a chance to win the game anymore.

just an idea..

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I didn't realize you guys started your round 2 game !!


hmm, is it a round 2 game, nimrod made it so i started playing, its not a problem is it?

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quote:
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Hatchy must have forgot about it despite my reminder so here it is:

Hatchy (Raging Hordes) > Keygen (Ancients)

It is about turn 9 of our 1x1 game.

I tried to post yesterday, but Apolyton did not respond . Ok this is 1x1 match #61 Keygen vs. Hatschy, Hatschy leading at turn 9 .

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1x1 match #6, Hatschy vs. Nimrod, Hatschy leading at turn 9 .

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Oh, and 1x1 match #5, Hatschy vs. yoda, Hatschy leading at turn 39 .

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game #3
turn 69

Mathemagician (ELF) maintains a slight lead over David (Raging Hordes).

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game #3
turn 69

Mathemagician (ELF) maintains a slight lead over David (Raging Hordes).


He means turn 79. Dammit.

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He means turn 79. Dammit.


Oops.
thank you david.
hope you're not that attentive in our game.

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hmm, is it a round 2 game, nimrod made it so i started playing, its not a problem is it?


No not really a problem, the idea was to hold off the round 2 1x1 games so that there would be something to do while waiting for the long 2x2 games to finish, and also to put in a form of revenge. The 2nd round game is revenge for the 1st. But since its started its started no troubles. Go ahead.

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Round 2?

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Just remember before you attack him


That's a good point... gumpold... could you send me a mail regarding all our 2x2 games? Especially when you first see me? Also, be sure to offer an alliance ASAP once we make contact.

 
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