29-08-2003 08:35									#91
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quote: Originally posted by FlameFlash Round 2?

The 1X1 Games that are being played are only
36 of 72 1x1 Games that are scheduled.

Currently each team is playing a 2x2 and a single 1x1.
When the 1x1 is over, the other teammates play
the 2nd round 1x1. We expect that both rounds
of the 1x1's will be over before the 2x2's are over.

	29-08-2003 09:15									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician Oops. thank you david. hope you're not that attentive in our game.

I would be if I could get into your diplomacy screen...

	29-08-2003 09:23									#93
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quote: Originally posted by david42one I would be if I could get into your diplomacy screen...

im sorry. i promise to not use my custom civ anymore.

	29-08-2003 15:33									#94
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Game #1, I am leading Gumpold at turn 59

	29-08-2003 19:08									#95
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SL 1x1 game #20
Math vs. Paul - turn 19

Math leading over Paul.

	29-08-2003 19:45									#96
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My appologies but I didn't participate in the discussion regarding the SL rules or had the time to read it so here are a couple of questions of mine:

quote: Originally posted by checkMate For the 2x2 games the total possible points at each *9 is three. So the first time you finish a *9 in a 2x2 it will be either 0 of 3 1 of 3 2 of 3 or 3 of 3 Next time it will be "X of 6"

Would that mean that the first on the PG gains 2 points and the second 1? Or would that mean something else? I thought only the first one would gain 2 points for his team. Perhaps that's why in the summery.pdf there is a double entry for gaining 1 point for leading at the *9 in 1x1

quote: Originally posted by checkMate No not really a problem, the idea was to hold off the round 2 1x1 games so that there would be something to do while waiting for the long 2x2 games to finish, and also to put in a form of revenge. The 2nd round game is revenge for the 1st. But since its started its started no troubles. Go ahead.

So there will be second rounds in all 1x1 games with the same opponents? That would be 16 games in total?

	29-08-2003 19:52									#97
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quote: Originally posted by Keygen Would that mean that the first on the PG gains 2 points and the second 1? Or would that mean something else? I thought only the first one would gain 2 points for his team. Perhaps that's why in the summery.pdf there is a double entry for gaining 1 point for leading at the *9 in 1x1

almost !
the winning TEAM gets 2 match points, but at each *9 turn, the leading PLAYER gets 2 tie-breaker points and the second PLAYER in power graph still gets 1 tie-breaker point.

quote: So there will be second rounds in all 1x1 games with the same opponents? That would be 16 games in total?

since each team consists of 2 players, in "round" 1 one player of one team plays another player of the other team, and in round 2 its just the other way around with each previous player's partner doing the 1x1 battle.

so assume that in a 1x1 game of round 1 you are playing versus me, in round 2 your partner, BirdMan, would play my partner, ricketyclik.

so all additional games for you in round 2 would be that number of games that your partner BirdMan was playing in round, so that the total number of 1x1 games for you during the season is still only once for each other team.

	29-08-2003 22:58									#98
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So I got it right after all

I only hope that Max uses the PBEM Mod in all his 1x1 games
I'll wear my viking hat if you do

Thanks for the help Math

	29-08-2003 23:37									#99
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quote: Originally posted by checkMate The 1X1 Games that are being played are only 36 of 72 1x1 Games that are scheduled. Currently each team is playing a 2x2 and a single 1x1. When the 1x1 is over, the other teammates play the 2nd round 1x1. We expect that both rounds of the 1x1's will be over before the 2x2's are over.

Is the round 2 line-up on the a list somewhere as well? Just wanting to add that to my SL printouts.

	29-08-2003 23:41									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Keygen So I got it right after all I only hope that Max uses the PBEM Mod in all his 1x1 games I'll wear my viking hat if you do Thanks for the help Math

Keygen, I know you're on some kind of time constraint, and I think gumpold is playing Bird in our 1x1 vs. so if you want to, we can track down the round 2 set-up requirements and then go from there at getting it started now. (And yes, I'll be happy to use the fast-start mod. )

	30-08-2003 00:57									#101
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1x1 game #3 - turn 89
Mathemagician vs. David42One

Math still slightly in the lead.

	30-08-2003 01:12									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician 1x1 game #3 - turn 89 Mathemagician vs. David42One Math still slightly in the lead.

as a note:
one turn after that, David exceeded me on the power graph for the first time since turn counts.

	30-08-2003 05:33									#103
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quote: Originally posted by Keygen My appologies but I didn't participate in the discussion regarding the SL rules or had the time to read it so here are a couple of questions of mine: Would that mean that the first on the PG gains 2 points and the second 1? Or would that mean something else?

Yes the player in the lead gets 2. The next highest gets 1. If both of these players are on the same team, the team ends up with three points for that *9. If the 1st player is on one team and the 2nd player on the other then it is split; 2 for one team and 1 for the other.

quote: I thought only the first one would gain 2 points for his team. Perhaps that's why in the summery.pdf there is a double entry for gaining 1 point for leading at the *9 in 1x1

I don't exactly understand you here, which summary post file are you refering to?

quote: So there will be second rounds in all 1x1 games with the same opponents? That would be 16 games in total?

Actually its only eight 1x1 games per team per round.
(four per player per round)

The way we set it up is that each player plays only 1/2 of the teams in the 1st round. They play the other 1/2 of the teams in the 2nd round. So you are playing four of the teams this round and the The Birdman is playing the other four. In the 2nd round you play the four that Birdman is playing in this round and he plays the ones you are playing in this round.

Further more. The people that are actually playing in the 2nd round for a given pair of teams are not the same people.

So after I beat The Birdman in the 1st round. It will be up to you to get revenge against the Spys by beating Nimrod in the 2nd round.

In principle you could already start your game with Nimrod. But this is discouraged since we will need to spread out the 1x1's so that they don't all finish too long before the 2x2's finish, and it kind of defeats the revenge aspect we had in mind. (Math was the author of the revenge Idea, but I like it anyway )

	30-08-2003 05:39									#104
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quote: Originally posted by FlameFlash Is the round 2 line-up on the a list somewhere as well? Just wanting to add that to my SL printouts.

Well I posted it once but I was trying to conceal it now so that folks wouldn't start them yet.

It's easy to tell what will happen though. For example, you have a 1X1 with Ricketyclik in this round. That means you won't be playing ELF in the 2nd round. For the 2nd round, Gumpold will play Math.

	30-08-2003 07:49									#105
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quote: Originally posted by checkMate Well I posted it once but I was trying to conceal it now so that folks wouldn't start them yet. It's easy to tell what will happen though. For example, you have a 1X1 with Ricketyclik in this round. That means you won't be playing ELF in the 2nd round. For the 2nd round, Gumpold will play Math.

* FlameFlash nods.

And attached (following posts) are some interesting occurances in Spys v SAR 2x2

	30-08-2003 08:36									#106
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I'm blue in this one... I'm guessing gumpold is green...

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	30-08-2003 08:39									#107
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what kind of font is that "Turns" writing there ?

	30-08-2003 09:16									#108
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Math, I think that font is Gadget...

And here's the close-up... had some connection issues...

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	30-08-2003 12:05									#109
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Oh my, that just stinks to High Heaven

Good job with the zoom in there Mr Flash.

WOW talk about a squeaker.

	30-08-2003 12:45									#110
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Ooh arrr.

	30-08-2003 14:05									#111
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quote: Originally posted by FlameFlash Keygen, I know you're on some kind of time constraint, and I think gumpold is playing Bird in our 1x1 vs. so if you want to, we can track down the round 2 set-up requirements and then go from there at getting it started now. (And yes, I'll be happy to use the fast-start mod. )

No problem at all

I hope this doesn't spoil the fun, checkMate

	30-08-2003 14:13									#112
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quote: Originally posted by checkMate I don't exactly understand you here, which summary post file are you refering to?

There is/was(?) a summery.pdf file in one of your links to the pdf files you(?) have created. Not sure if you have made any change in this one since I forst downloaded it.

quote: Originally posted by checkMate Actually its only eight 1x1 games per team per round. (four per player per round)

8 1x1 games per round x 2 rounds / 2 players = 8 1x1 games per player in both round.
If you add the 8 2x2 per player you've got 16 games in total to complete all your SuperLeague games

quote: Originally posted by checkMate So after I beat The Birdman in the 1st round. It will be up to you to get revenge against the Spys by beating Nimrod in the 2nd round.

And then I'll beat you

OK, thanks for all the info checkMate

One more question though

In round 2 how are the players shorted?
The opposite way? The same as in round 1? Or a new way?

	30-08-2003 14:15									#113
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1x1 ricketyclik vs Keygen Turn 19

The Ancients (Keygen) > Earth Liberation Front (ricketyclik)

	30-08-2003 16:16									#115
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quote: Originally posted by ricketyclik

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2x2 match #20
ELF vs. Dream Team

1.) Mathemagician (ELF)
2.) ricketyclik (ELF)

	30-08-2003 17:51									#117
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quote: Originally posted by Keygen One more question though In round 2 how are the players shorted? The opposite way? The same as in round 1? Or a new way?

They are sorted the other way around.

	30-08-2003 17:54									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Keygen There is/was(?) a summery.pdf file in one of your links to the pdf files you(?) have created. Not sure if you have made any change in this one since I forst downloaded it.

I think there may have been something wrong with
that one. I quit using it. The Green table you see now
is the newSummary.jpg. summary.pdf is in the boneyard now.

	30-08-2003 18:12									#119
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SL1X1 Game 59 Checkmate of the Spys leads over Birdman of the Ancients.

	30-08-2003 18:27									#120
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quote: Originally posted by checkMate SL1X1 Game 59 Checkmate of the Spys leads over Birdman of the Ancients.

After being behind the first 8 turns

Edit:

I forgot this one: