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Apolyton Grand Executioner
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mooning the house that Ruth built.
Oct 1999
time: 21:30
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Originally posted by Berzerker
MtG -
But that's a big problem for the Dems, their pandering to special interests is one reason why California is in financial trouble. Facing a guy who has no obvious ties to special interests with the most politically connected guy in the state is going to hurt them big.
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Not likely, Berz. First, California is a virtual People's Republic, that's why people like Boxer, Davis and Bustamante get elected. And the Reps are dirty with special interest ties too, they just have different ones.
Second, the Dem party machine is rich right now, the Reps aren't, so it's a question of how much money will Arnie throw in on his own.
Davis is just inept, and has the charisma of a blown out piece of retread lying on the shoulder of the road. Nobody likes Davis, but even so, if Issa hadn't been willing to pump a lot of money into the recall petition, it would have died.
Arnie may have a lot of charisma and recognition (I certainly don't dislike the guy), but this is a sort of lame duck election, and if Arnie wants to do anything as governor (and not get hamstrung by a lieutenant governor who isn't in the least accountable to him) he's going to have to play ball with the powers that be. If he runs against the special interests and both party's establishments (which isn't unlikely, since this is more of a peasant rebellion, with us peasants getting uppity), then he's going to have to be one hell of a campaigner with no learning curve, and completely cool under fire.
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Hmm...so Ahnold smoked pot. Will he support punishing others for doing what he did? |
He can duck that issue, with the state having no legal ability to block the overzealous Feds, and with the Feds saying **** you to states with medical marijuana statutes
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:30
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lol you know about those arnold prank calls too?
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Soul Survivor
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UChicago
May 2003
time: 05:30
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I don't think Bloomberg is bad for the city, he just has to deal with all the post-9/11 problems - so no matter what he does, no matter who does it, things were (are) getting worse in the city no matter what.
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:30
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Bloomberg has been severely hamstrung by the very political inexperience you're advocating. He has no relationships with other city leaders a politician ordinarily would have, so has no clue how to play the political game (which, sadly, is a must) to get things done. His approval ratings are akin to Davis's, and that's pretty difficult to achieve without some measure of ineptitude.
He's made some pretty bad political moves while in office, including the smoking ban (Gee, let's piss off a good bulk of your constituents when a state law mandating the exact same thing is in the pipeline and likely to pass!), his lacksadasical response to the MTA crisis and his alienating both the Fire Dept. and the Police Dept., two city agencies with incredible clout.
He came in trying to lead the city like he does his business, as a veritable dictator. He's being roundly *****slapped from all sides now, because he didn't know how to play ball.
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Berzerker
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topeka, kansas,USA
May 1999
time: 23:30
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Mtg - quote:
Not likely, Berz. First, California is a virtual People's Republic, that's why people like Boxer, Davis and Bustamante get elected. And the Reps are dirty with special interest ties too, they just have different ones. |
No doubt, the Reps and Dems are corrupt nearly to the bone imo, but Arnold, like Perot before him, can put distance between himself and the parties and their special interests. I believe ~%15-18 of the people in just about any state are die-hard Dems or Reps and most of the rest who call themselves Dems or Reps are flexible when faced with a "cross-over" candidate such as Arnold. I think a previous poster had it about right, Bustamonte with ~%30 and Arnold closer to %50, I think only Feinstein could beat him. But we'll see soon enough. 
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Second, the Dem party machine is rich right now, the Reps aren't, so it's a question of how much money will Arnie throw in on his own. |
Not as much I'm sure, but he'll get plenty of free coverage. It'll be tough, but I think he's the frontrunner nonetheless. Depends on whether or not the Reps put up a more "conservative" candidate to draw away Republican votes.
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He can duck that issue, with the state having no legal ability to block the overzealous Feds, and with the Feds saying **** you to states with medical marijuana statutes |
The key, if Arnold succeeds in getting pot laws reformed (not likely he'll even try), is that if the state of California refuses to enforce federal pot laws, the feds are screwed. They can't afford the resources to police the state like they can selected cities where medical pot distributors are pretty well-known. But I highly doubt he'll even mention pot laws/reforms; hell, I don't even know his views on that matter.
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999
time: 05:30
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If Arny gets in he can shut down SkyNet! Maybe we should vote for him if we want to live!?!?
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yavoon
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hasta lavista poverty
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