08-08-2003 19:07									#1
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Me and my bigger brother did some cleaning on olb papers by the computers at home, and we found this illustration of the Civ1 tech tree made by him to get a view over the technology paths.

Has the tech tree ever looked more complex?

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	13-08-2003 22:17									#2
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Once upon a time... I made a civ1 tree which looks way more systematic and orderly than yours, but unfortunately it's drawn on a paper six times the size of a normal A4 paper, so I can't scan it for you.

	22-08-2003 14:47									#3
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*grins*

That is a wonderful tech tree, Gramphos! I'm glad I never saw it before starting to play Civ, otherwise I wouldn't even have bothered! :P

	26-08-2003 18:16									#4
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That's a good one, Gramphos. But wasn't there a tech tree poster included with the game. I have forgotten now. It's...OMG...12 years ago.

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	19-09-2003 16:01									#5
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I don't remember... If there was I don't have it any more... And didn't have it when my brother made that image either.

	19-09-2003 16:21									#6
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Yes, there is(was). It is included on the last page of the documentation. Yes a real hardcopy manual !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You had to unfold it, though. Something like 2 A5 pages (landscape)

	19-09-2003 21:51									#7
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Yeah. I remember that manual. It was huge. I remember reading all of it before playing, and actually enjoying myself reading it.

They just don't make manuals like that anymore.

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	02-10-2003 14:57									#8
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not a poster, but there's a tree in the manual

gramphos -

	02-10-2003 15:32									#9
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Well, I didn't make that tree, it was my brother, and my manual is stored somewhere I don't remember. And when I got the game I couldn't readf English, so it did me not mush good.

	04-10-2003 15:32									#10
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The first copy of Civ we used was in German, but nowadays I run an English copy.

Translations of these games just suck

	04-10-2003 19:34									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion The first copy of Civ we used was in German, but nowadays I run an English copy. Translations of these games just suck

	04-10-2003 22:53									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion The first copy of Civ we used was in German, but nowadays I run an English copy. Translations of these games just suck

That has to do with the crappy way you Germans sometimes mix German and English.

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	04-10-2003 23:30									#13
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It's even worse when a German company translates a game to Swedish from English VIA German. Somethings can get totally ununderstandable. (And it's in those cases you want to use the English version, or be able to fix a few strings yourself).

	04-10-2003 23:34									#14
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yeah, they translated it with "finden" rather than "gründen"

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	04-10-2003 23:46									#15
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Exactly.................

They where using 'online' translation, which will check for found....and find that this is past of to find........which isn't right in this case..........

But I think that's how they run into it..............

So it might have been the English people not even knowing their own language

	05-10-2003 02:06									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion yeah, they translated it with "finden" rather than "gründen" Gilga?

Well, in one particular game the german translators got the Englesh sentecen 'Increase the park value to XXX' turned into the Swedish sentence "Tjäna XXX" which in english would be "Earn XXX"

And half the sentense were lost in the german translation, that is half way (don't remeber the worrdings the translation company had used for that)

	05-10-2003 02:45									#17
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Just why didn't they hire some real translators? It's the same in Civ2!!

	05-10-2003 02:49									#18
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It's easist to have one company do all translations, and not hire translators for each country.

There are some good translated games thou... EA are usually good at translating. (SC3000and The Sims are very good Swedish translations)
Theme Hospital are quite good, but than if you have to find swedes to speak they will probably react to strange stuff. Only one tihn that I can think of that is totally wring in them hospital, and it's the translation go "Cold" (the illness) to "Avkylning" thather than "Förkylning" (Incorrect preposition, and makes it really strange)

	05-10-2003 03:01									#19
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adventure games are usually well translated too... even sierra ones

	05-10-2003 05:12									#20
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They aren't translated to Swedish, so I will not comment on that (as I've not tested any other translated adventure game either)

	13-10-2003 04:01									#21
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Looks like my own unfinished effort for a mod of Civ2 (Biological Evolution) which did not have a tech tree chart . Anyone know of a program for generating neat charts?

	15-02-2004 11:23									#22
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Its like one of those maze games you get on the tray with a kiddies meal at Burger King.

Ive got a Japanese version of civ2 and the tech tree inside that manual is easier to understand...

	19-02-2004 08:55									#23
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Ha! That's so amusing

	19-02-2004 15:35									#24
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You should get someone to look at that eye.

	23-02-2004 00:18									#25
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At least its still more legible than most business flow diagrams.