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Kalius is offline Kalius
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Kriegsgewitter
Aug 2002
time: 16:30
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Why does Settler II keep crashing? Got spare money?

I don't want any stupid answers like "Because it sucks" etc.

In the downtime reports, it always says something like "Cause of Downtime has not yet been established".

So, what is causing them? If it's high load, why aren't the umpteen anti-load features doing anything?

alva is offline alva
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Republic of Flanders
Sep 2001
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  Old Post 11-08-2003 10:17
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Can't expect a Mini to carry the same load as a truck or humvee

Skanky Burns is offline Skanky Burns
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Skanky Bastard Quartermaster
Aug 2001
time: 14:30
  Old Post 11-08-2003 10:27
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It seems the load is still a problem.

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Originally posted by DanQ (in another thread)
Well, avatars lasted for almost five days this time around...

Unfortunately, I have had to temporarily disable them again as a measure to reduce server load. We'll see "where we're at" in 1-2 weeks time.

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H Tower is offline H Tower
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Jul 2001
time: 23:30
  Old Post 11-08-2003 12:34
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* H Tower points to the dozen or so posts by Asuka listing a dozen or so reasons why Settler II keeps crashing

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DanQ is offline DanQ
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Re: Why does Settler II keep crashing? Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

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Originally posted by Frozzy
I don't want any stupid answers like "Because it sucks" etc.

In the downtime reports, it always says something like "Cause of Downtime has not yet been established".

So, what is causing them? If it's high load, why aren't the umpteen anti-load features doing anything?


As has been referenced in this thread so far, high server load has been the result of the most recent crashes. The exact reason as to why there has been this extended high server load as of recent is still being investigated. Avatar disablement has in the past alleviated these problems, and is doing so again, but the institution of this measure should not be necessary in the first place (or, at the very least, not to the extent to which it has had to be employed as of late).

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Dis is offline Dis
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Las Vegas, Nevada
Feb 2000
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Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

what is settler II?

sounds interesting

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Prince
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Jun 2003
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Settler II is the name of Apolyton's current server. Diss, you've been here several times as long as me, you should know that by now.

alva is offline alva
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Republic of Flanders
Sep 2001
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  Old Post 12-08-2003 08:38
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Put an end to popups!

So what's going to happen when a couple of thousand new members sign up and dissabling the avatars won't cut it anymore?

Jamski is offline Jamski
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May 2002
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  Old Post 12-08-2003 12:22
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Please take my money 'poly! Or give me an address, and I'll get FedEx to mail you a big new server.

-Jam

Rasbelin is offline Rasbelin

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Tampere (Tammerfors), Finland
Nov 1999
time: 07:30
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quote:
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* H Tower points to the dozen or so posts by Asuka listing a dozen or so reasons why Settler II keeps crashing


And those were all valid notes.

DrSpike is offline DrSpike
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Sep 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by alva
So what's going to happen when a couple of thousand new members sign up and dissabling the avatars won't cut it anymore?


Isn't there another expansion for Civ3 coming up? I agree we need to be pro-active rather than just reactive.

Asher is offline Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
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I blame Linux.

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Jun 2003
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Asher, you are unaware of the actual problem. The problem is not the OS, the problem is the number and length of connections. Any server would crash when subjected to the load Settler II recieves.

panag is offline panag
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Oct 2000
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quote:
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I blame Linux.


hi ,

and that would be based on what , ........


it aint the problem , ......

have a nice day

rah is offline rah
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Jan 1970
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It's been pretty stable for me all day. First one in a while.

Maniac is offline Maniac
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Gent, Belgium
Jul 1999
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  Old Post 13-08-2003 03:19
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Poly is crashing because of the high load times of all those threads asking why Poly is crashing.

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Hunt Valley
Apr 2002
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Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

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Originally posted by alva
So what's going to happen when a couple of thousand new members sign up and dissabling the avatars won't cut it anymore?

Well, we are getting about 70 new ones a day. And at least 10 of those aren't DLs even.

rah is offline rah
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Jan 1970
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  Old Post 13-08-2003 05:59
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Well it isn't the RON forums. Traffic there is no where near what it was on the CIV III forum.

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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Jan 1970
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  Old Post 13-08-2003 07:02
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Because it suck... oh wait.

It does seem kinda strange. It never was this bad with the CivIII influx even.

Skanky Burns is offline Skanky Burns
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Aug 2001
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  Old Post 13-08-2003 07:28
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Suffering from ads?

Well, some of the CivIII influx stayed.

Asher is offline Asher
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Nov 1999
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Something is choking the HTTP connections in the software.

It's either:
1) Apache
2) Linux TCP/IP

Take your pick.

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Prince
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Jun 2003
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Got spare money?

Asher, follow this advice. Then, carefully read this.

H Tower is offline H Tower
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Jul 2001
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at geeslaka

alva is offline alva
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Republic of Flanders
Sep 2001
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For geeslaka ! just press the button

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Prince
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Jun 2003
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Sorry, not going to get Flashed.

alva is offline alva
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Republic of Flanders
Sep 2001
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  Old Post 13-08-2003 12:37
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It's very clean, nothing fancy, I promise..

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I was referring to the plugin. I'm not going to install it.

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Oct 2002
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  Old Post 13-08-2003 17:25
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For geeslaka:

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Asher is offline Asher
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)


Your "any server would crash when subjected to the load Settler II recieves" comment is beyond ridiculous...

Linux's TCP/IP stack isn't very robust, the websites that use Linux for hosting use clusters so each individual stack doesn't get worked too hard. A real OS, like a BSD or NT, would handle it far more elegantly.

 
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