11-08-2003 22:00									#1
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	11-08-2003 22:02									#2
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	11-08-2003 23:20									#3
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Mine is very bad. It's difficult because I'm always asking people to repeat what they say, and if there is any loud background noise, possibly more than once. It's why I like the internet so much, there's no hearing to do.

	11-08-2003 23:31									#4
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i would have to rate it as 'fair.' oftentimes if my attetion is not focused on listening i don't understand what's being said. especially when there's a lot of noise in the background. i can't answer the phone in the kitchen at work because of it. my loss is an annoyance at best, and problematic at worst.

	11-08-2003 23:33									#5
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When I was 20 ish I know that it was well beyond the range of normal humans (at the higher freq's). After a further 20ish years of loud music its probably less good, but I can still hear high pitch tones that other people around me cant.

	11-08-2003 23:42									#6
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Progredient and hereditary Defect of the inner Ear.

Therefore my hearing grows slowly but steadily worse. As I was a Child, i.e. til the age of maybe 10 or 11 it was no great Problem, btu then it was worse enough, so I had to decide to get Hearing Aids. And it has declined further.

But hey, as long as there isnīt a crowd of people talkign around me, I have no Problems to understand the people I am talking to. And in a Discotheque I am even better off than people with a normal hearing, cos if I put out the devices I have less Problems to understand people at Locations where there is a lot of noise (like the Background music in Discotheques), obviously because my worse hearing prevents my Brain to be overloaded with too much Audioinformations in such an environment and so I am better able to concentrate on the words the person I am talking to says (whereas his/her Brain has Difficulties because of too much Informations to be processed).

	11-08-2003 23:44									#7
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Huh what........I am like everyone else if someone has something interesting to say it is excellent.........If it is not too interesting then I would have to say poor.........It is Selective........(reminds me of a friends dad who had a hearing aid & when his wife was giving him an earful he just turned it off) I do believe Moms have the best hearing

	11-08-2003 23:55									#8
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quote: It's why I like the internet so much, there's no hearing to do.

I echo this sentiment.

quote: Therefore my hearing grows slowly but steadily worse. As I was a Child, i.e. til the age of maybe 10 or 11 it was no great Problem, btu then it was worse enough, so I had to decide to get Hearing Aids. And it has declined further.

Interesting. I have a similar hereditary degenerative hearing impairment. At this point I'm profoundly hearing impaired, and wear hearing aids except for when I swim.

quote: I have less Problems to understand people at Locations where there is a lot of noise

Proteus, can you speechread? I find this incredibly handy in any noisy environment, because I will understand you, even when other hearing people cannot.

What do you think about sign language? Would you ever want to learn?

	12-08-2003 00:21									#9
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My hearing is kinda strange... I listens to the radio at ultra low volume, when passing by some people* (who talks ) I have mostly no problems hearing what they're saying... but when I talk directly with someone, I often have problems hearing what they say, which causes me to say "repeat please" several times each dialog... pretty annoying...



* When passing by, I normally don't try to listen to what they're saying... for some reason I just hear it anyway...

	12-08-2003 00:22									#10
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despite plowing my ear-drums several times I still have excellent hearing... though it is selective

	12-08-2003 00:38									#11
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 Proteus, can you speechread? I find this incredibly handy in any noisy environment, because I will understand you, even when other hearing people cannot. What do you think about sign language? Would you ever want to learn?

About speechread.
No, it may be that Iīve learned it a bit without knowing it, but normally I donīt deliberate try to speechread. But it may be, that I subconsciously do it.

As for Sign Language:
Nope, I donīt have any knowledge about it. Judging from the decline of my hearing abilities I hope, that I can get along with Hearing Aids for a long time and maybe even have someday the chance to get my Inner Ear replaced (from the rate of development of medical technologies I think that it may be possible in 10 years).

As for now my hearing abilities are still within the Range that I can understand people if they talk loud to me, and I often for example talk to my mother without Hearing Aids and I also watch TV via Headphones and without Hearing Aids so I think there are still people who are worse off.

So I think I would never have to be dependend on Sign Language for Communication. Maybe Iīll still learn it someday if I have enough time, as it is a useful tool and you could always happen to meet people, who are absolutely dependend on it, but to date I never had the time to learn it.

	12-08-2003 01:09									#12
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what?

	12-08-2003 01:15									#13
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quote: I echo this sentiment.

Did you even realise you were giving me a pun?

Proteus--very optomistic.

	12-08-2003 01:47									#14
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Last time I got it checked, it was pretty fair. I was at the outer edge of normal at a couple of frequencies, but well within for most of them, though I did not rate perfect at any frequency. I'm not entirely sure how reliable those results were though, because I was extremely nervous about the test.

For the most part, I think the bigger part of my hearing problems are attention related. Unless I'm expecting you to say something, I'm not going to hear and/or understand you.

	12-08-2003 01:49									#15
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in the navy we took hearing tests on supposedly sound proof booths.

But when you have F-14's and F-18's taking off, it can be quite loud. Actually the noisy part was when the cataupult hits the water brake. You feel it throughout the whole ship. Including the sound proof booth.

Also a problem I have in those tests is I hear my own heart beating and blood pumping through my veins. It's quite distracting

	12-08-2003 01:52									#16
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mrmitchell, I didn't hear you -- what was your question?

	12-08-2003 01:55									#17
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That was lame, Fun .

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My hearing I put as Good. I can hear telephone rings from other rooms that most people in the same room as me can't, so I guess it's above average, at the least. Not sure if it's 'excellent' though.

	12-08-2003 01:58									#18
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I have a hearing aid in my left ear -- with it, I hear just fine and dandy, unless you're mumbling, or looking away from me when talking.

Without my hearing aid, I can still hear -- I can also understand what a person is saying if I really concentrate on complete listening.

	13-08-2003 02:42									#19
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quote: Did you even realise you were giving me a pun?

Mr. Mitchell:

Well done.

Proteus:

quote: No, it may be that Iīve learned it a bit without knowing it, but normally I donīt deliberate try to speechread. But it may be, that I subconsciously do it.

Try practicing some time. Watch a television program with the sound off and without captioning. If you are planning to get by without using sign language, it will help to be able to read lips. This way, when your hearing deteriorates, you will still function well.

Your audiologist can test this along with your hearing. Simply have her read you a list of words with a piece of paper in front of her lips, and another list without the paper. The difference in your scores should correspond with the amount that you rely on speechreading.

quote: that I can get along with Hearing Aids for a long time and maybe even have someday the chance to get my Inner Ear replaced

There's been a good article not too long ago citing the possibility of genetic repairs, since most of the hearing loss can be attributed to small mutations.

I will post more when I get back from work and back on my home computer. It's quite an interesting article.

	13-08-2003 03:30									#20
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 There's been a good article not too long ago citing the possibility of genetic repairs, since most of the hearing loss can be attributed to small mutations. I will post more when I get back from work and back on my home computer. It's quite an interesting article.

That might be really interesting,
as my hearing Loss ids definitely genetic
and result in my Haircells becoming stiff,
although I donīt know for sure, which Layer of Haircells it is,
"only" the outer Layers (as I suspect), the inner Layer, or even both of them.

If this Defect could be compensated or even repaired, it would be cool

	13-08-2003 04:22									#21
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 There's been a good article not too long ago citing the possibility of genetic repairs, since most of the hearing loss can be attributed to small mutations.

I wish you luck but dont hold your breath. Genetic fixes have been a disaster so far and have caused a few deaths.

	13-08-2003 23:23									#22
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quote: and result in my Haircells becoming stiff, although I donīt know for sure, which Layer of Haircells it is, "only" the outer Layers (as I suspect), the inner Layer, or even both of them.

The hair cells in the cochlea? That's exactly the cause of my loss, in that some of mine no longer transmit sound.

Does your loss occur on a dominent gene?

quote: Genetic fixes have been a disaster so far and have caused a few deaths.

A few years ago I would have pinned way more hopes on a cure. Now, I'm content with how I am. If they find one, great, but if they don't I'll make the best of what I have.

	13-08-2003 23:26									#23
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 The hair cells in the cochlea? That's exactly the cause of my loss, in that some of mine no longer transmit sound. Does your loss occur on a dominent gene?

Improbable,
my Parents donīt have it, so it must by Recessive
and/or involve multiple Loci