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Adrian Hon
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Living in Perplex City
Nov 2001
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Hi all,
I've been following multiplayer online games for as long as they've existed, and I've been playing Civilization since it was first released. I also lurked in the first Poly singleplayer Civ3 DG. However, this ISDG has to be the most impressive, complex and interesting online game I've seen yet, with respect to its social interactions within and between teams, and that it's probably the most accurate simulation of nation-building on the Internet.
I enjoy writing about online games on my weblog and I've long thought that the ISDG would be far more interesting to read about than yet another article on Everquest or The Sims Online. So a month ago, I started researching for this very purpose; first, I spoke to a couple of well-known players in this forum to see whether they thought the article was a good idea, which thankfully they did. I intend to get the article published in the highest-profile place I can manage - somewhere like Wired would be perfect, but failing that, a good games website like Avault.
I've written about a thousand words of it, mostly the introduction and a history of the Civilization series, and now I'm getting into the intricacies of the ISDG itself. What I'd like to do now is to have your thoughts on the game for the article, by interviewing people in IRC and from replies to this thread. I also intend to try and interview representatives from other teams.
Let me stress that there is absolutely no way that I will put any material sensitive to Poly's position in the game - I'm a member of this team as much as anyone else, and I don't intend to do anything to make us lose. But there's still plenty to talk about - about conflicts between players within teams, about clashes of ideologies, about the depths into which people analyse the game to derive all possible information. There's the tension of dealing with different teams operating across the world, and the subtle (and not so subtle) diplomacy that operates on so many levels.
Finally, once I finish the article, I'll post it here. This is so that you can all check to see whether I've put any sensitive information in it by mistake. Only then will I shop it around different magazines and websites.
It would be great to have all your help on this, and I believe that a lot of people will find what goes on in the ISDG to be absolutely fascinating.
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Adrian Hon
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Living in Perplex City
Nov 2001
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Nope, no business interests or anything. If I make any money out of the article (which would be nice but unlikely) then I will probably get around to donating some to Poly's upkeep.
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Adrian Hon
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Living in Perplex City
Nov 2001
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Everyone in the chat room has been extremely helpful so far and I've gotten a lot of very interesting information and quotes. Here are a couple of excerpts - please note that this is a first draft and everything is likely to change quite a bit before I'm finished:
From the introduction:
It’s a busy time for the Minister of the Interior. He has to co-ordinate working groups on the placement of new settlements along the disputed border to the east, and at the same time try and defend his share of this year’s budget against the hawks in the Ministry of War. Meanwhile, diplomats from the Foreign Office are generating headaches throughout the government with their disturbing news of conflict in the south. While the political parties bicker over an official response, worried civil servants are hastily drawing up contingency plans for the nation’s defence and professional negotiators dash from meeting to meeting in a never-ending attempt to mediate peace between the foreign countries. This could be a timeless description of politics in any country, except these politicians have never met face to face before and the worst harm that will come from war are bruised egos.
The year is 610BC, and it’s just another turn for the great nation of Apolyton to play in the first ever Inter-Site Democracy Game of Civilization 3.
From later on:
The arrival of a savegame is a much anticipated event for teams, a little like the wait for Christmas. Any delay in the arrival, usually caused by email problems, or (as is suspected occasionally) nefarious behind the scenes diplomacy, is a source of immense distress and rampant speculation for players. As soon as the savegame arrives, updated maps are posted along with the new game demographics, which show the team’s position in the game in population, land area, literacy and so on. A flurry of discussion commences, on both IRC and web forums, about how the new turn should be played. Barring any serious surprises, the turn is played based on instructions and decisions made from the previous turns. With that done, the savegame is passed on, more maps are posted (from the ‘end’ of the turn), and the wait begins again - typically an agonizing two or three days.
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Adrian Hon
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Living in Perplex City
Nov 2001
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Edit: Just correcting some typos
I've finally gotten the article to a state that I'm happy with; it's not perfect and it'll probably be changed a bit, but as it stands this is basically what it'll look like.
It's much longer than I anticipated, at 4600 words, and my only excuse is that the subject matter is too damn interesting. There's much more I would've liked to have talked about but I don't know if people would've had the patience to read it all. I've attempted to split the article up into a number of discrete sections, some of which can stand alone, which might please some publishers (e.g. the sections on luck and cheating).
To be honest, I don't really know where I'm going to get this published - it would be nice to see it in print and I'll have a crack at sending it off to some games magazines, but I'm not that optimistic. However, I'm sure that some enterprising online games site like Avault or GamesDomain might have it.
Finally, I invented some terms, like the 'intrasite' game to describe the PTW demo game; trust me, it makes more sense 
And here it is...
A Clash of Civilizations
It’s a busy time in this nation’s government. At the same time as chairing talks on the placement of new settlements along the disputed eastern border, the Minister of the Interior is trying to defend his share of this year’s budget against the hawks in the Ministry of War. Diplomats from the Foreign Office are generating headaches throughout the government with their disturbing news of conflict in the south. While the political parties bicker over an official response, worried civil servants are hastily drawing up contingency plans for the nation’s defence and negotiators dash from meeting to meeting in a Sisyphean effort to mediate peace between the foreign countries.
This could be a timeless description of politics anywhere in the world, except these politicians have never met face to face before and the worst harm that could come from war is bruised egos.
The year is 610BC, and it’s just another turn for the nation of Apolyton to play in the first ever Intersite Democracy Game of Civilization 3, possibly the most cerebral, complex – and unknown – game on the Internet.
Just One More Turn…
Civilization is a turn-based strategy game with a lineage as distinguished as some royal families - at least in computer game terms. Unlike the Intersite Democracy Game (ISDG), it’s well known to gamers around the world. In Civilization, players take control of a band of settlers in 4000BC and raise them into an advanced civilization while dealing with all the challenges history has to offer – wars, disasters, revolutions - the usual. Yet Civilization isn’t just a war game; while you can win by conquering the world, you can also win by a cultural or diplomatic victory, among other ways. In this respect, Civilization 3, the latest version, is as far beyond other strategy games such as Age of Empires as they are from action games like Quake.
The attraction of Civilization for its millions of players lies in how every new game is unique, yet still poses the same challenges of striking a fine balance between expansion and consolidation, research and defence, and conquest or peaceful diplomacy. ‘Just one more turn’ is the mantra of Civilization addicts, whose ranks include the author Iain Banks and economist Prof. Brad DeLong. Banks has based at least one of his books around Civilization and has spoken ruefully about physically destroying the game CD to end his addiction. One player has commented, “I can honestly say playing Civ has been the one single activity which I have done most in my life after sleeping.”
In 1991, Civilization 1 was developed by Sid Meier at Microprose and received universal praise. Since then, the game remained under the supervision of Meier, who followed on with an even more successful sequel in 1996. Five years later, Civilization 3 was released in 2001 by Meier, now at Firaxis, following a legal tussle concerning the use of the lucrative ‘Civilization’ name in other games. Each sequel has added refinements on to the original, such as the territory borders, culture, unit hit points and experience, but the core theme of the game has been left untouched.
Controversially, multiplayer capabilities have never been built into any Civilization game. This was reasonable enough twelve years ago, but its continued absence in Civilization 3 angered many players. Firaxis claimed this was because Civilization has always been intended as a single player experience, but a more cynical explanation may lie in the fact that multiplayer capabilities have always been made available after each games’ release – for a price.
Despite this annoyance, there’s a thriving online community of Civilization fans numbering almost one hundred thousand. These fans aren’t your normal game players who might shrug when they encounter a rule that doesn’t seem to make sense. Instead, Civilization fans would (and have) run exhaustive simulations within the game to determine the exact equation governing the rule, and then argue at length about its worth. However, the very complexity of Civilization and the unpredictability of the game’s formidable AI mean that it’s simply not possible to reverse engineer it and play the perfect game; there’s always an element of intuition and luck, which suits the players just fine.
All Talk
With over three million posts among the fan sites, it almost seems like the players prefer talking about Civilization to actually playing it, and it’s not without truth, either. While the game’s play by email feature makes it easy for players to take part in not just one but several games concurrently, there’s still a maximum of eight players per game, which isn’t any more than what you might find in a typical board game. Handily, the Civilization Fanatics Center, one of the largest fan sites on the Internet, came up with a solution that satisfies fans’ dual urges of playing the game and talking about it at the same time. They invented the democracy game.
A democracy game is just like a normal single player game of Civilization, except with over a hundred people sitting beside you arguing about what to do. Surprisingly enough, democracy games don’t descend into a free for all; instead, detailed constitutions and an elected government have ensured that the games proceed smoothly and every player can contribute their opinion. Since 2002, democracy games have been successfully exported to other websites and strategy games, such as Alpha Centauri, a Civilization spin-off game.
A progression of the original idea is the intrasite democracy game, the first of which began last year at Apolyton. In intrasite games, instead of players assuming the role of just one civilization, eight teams of players control eight different civilizations, each with their own government. Apolyton’s intrasite game has already become legendary owing to the incredibly heated and personal arguments that have risen between teams.
The Great Game, Online
The Intersite Democracy Game takes the concept one step further by involving eight website teams scattered across the globe. Over three hundred players are spread among the teams, many of whom have played the Civilization for over ten years and possess an enormous and sometimes deeply worrying amount of knowledge about the game. Each team represents one civilization within the game - Apolyton, for example, has chosen Carthage. Since the game was only designed to be played by a maximum of eight individuals, only designated members in each team are allowed play the savegames (‘turns’) that are passed from team to team.
The ISDG revolves around savegames. It’s when a savegame arrives that teams can get down to the serious business of actually moving units around and issuing orders instead of just talking about it. Teams wait for savegames in the same way that children wait for Christmas - with a great deal of anticipation and impatience. Any delay in their arrival, usually caused by email problems, or (as is suspected occasionally) nefarious behind the scenes diplomacy, is a source of immense distress and rampant speculation for players.
However, teams have plenty to do when they’re not playing a savegame, which in any case only takes a few hours. In particular, diplomats continually engage in resource and technology trades with other civilizations and hammer out border and non-aggression treaties filled with enough stipulations and loopholes to make Microsoft’s lawyers blanch. This healthy level of suspicion between teams results in a rather fluid style of online diplomacy that progresses from informal chats up to official IRC meetings, and then finally an exchange of signed documents until all the parties are satisfied.
Teams spend a lot of time in the run up to a savegame discussing exactly how to play it. A seemingly simple question, such as where the next city should be founded, can be subjected to a staggering amount of debate. In Apolyton, the regulars in the team’s chat room will kick off with informal speculation and after a while will post a more detailed thread about it on the forums. Other members can then reply with their own thoughts and suggestions, and some might conduct a more in-depth analysis using simulations and spreadsheets, all of which will be posted to the thread along with maps and graphs. Based on the facts and opinions in the forums and polls, the consul triumvirate will settle on a final decision and add it to the long list of things to do when the next savegame arrives.
When this finally happens, the consuls will post updated maps in the forums showing any changes from the last turn, along with the new game demographics which show the team’s position in the game in population, land area, literacy and so on. Barring any serious surprises, the turn is played according to the task list made earlier; otherwise the team will go into overdrive trying to adapt to the new situation. With the turn played, the savegame is passed on to the next team and the wait begins again - typically an agonizing two or three days.
What a Tangled Web
You could be forgiven for thinking that Civilization fans are a happy family, united in their love of the game. The reality turns out to be depressingly familiar; if you drew a family tree of Civilization fan sites, you’d soon end up with a tangled web of relations that has ended up with some sites despising each other. On the positive side, all of this rivalry makes for a colourful game.
The two largest teams are the Apolyton Civilization Site and the Civilization Fanatics Center (CFC). Apolyton boasts an impressive total of 39,000 users and two million posts, and has the distinction of being the oldest Civilization website on the Internet. CFC is only slightly behind with 34,500 users and one million posts. With such sizeable communities, it’s surprising that Apolyton’s ISDG team only has 93 players and CFC’s team has 72.
As the two most well known fan sites with past experience in democracy games, they have the dubious distinction of being seen by several sites as the teams to beat. As if that wasn’t enough, they have a healthy, but not acrimonious, rivalry between themselves. Which site is better? Most agree that CFC has a superior grasp of Civilization 3 while Apolyton has a broader range of strategy expertise spread across a number of games. The only way to know for certain, though, was to pit the two teams against each other in a real game, so when the ISDG was first thought up, many envisaged a straight ‘CFC vs. Apolyton’ match.
Both sites have spawned offshoots. The Civilization Gaming Network (800 users and 24 ISDG players) was founded by a group of Apolyton members who ‘moved on’. Jon Shafer, Apolyton’s Mnister of War, explains, “Many of the more outsiderly Apolytonians who didn't want to join our team joined theirs, because in a way CGN represents ‘Apolyton sucks,’” – but in a light-hearted way, he added. CGN today consists of a mixed community, most of which have never had anything to do with Apolyton.
CFC’s relative, the Creative Design Group, has a darker history. Many of the members of CDG were ‘modders’ at CFC – they created custom graphics, animations and units to be used in Civilization. When they made a ‘Third Reich Team’ that designed German units and gave themselves titles such as ‘Hauptman’ and ‘Feldmarschall’, other CFC members complained and the modders were told to change their ways. Godwin’s law inexorably swung into effect, people said things they shouldn’t have, and the modders left on an exodus to CDG. Kenton, CDG’s team leader explains, “The two sites have serious long term issues, but in the ISDG we couldn’t have been closer. It’s because many of us at CDG are very good friends with many of the CFC people.”
A dark horse in the ISDG, the Gamecatcher Alliance wasn’t an original entry into the ISDG. “We sort of slipped into the ISDG when another team withdrew. The ‘alliance’ refers to all the different factions existing in the [Gamecatcher] forum joining together to play as one site,” says Oskar Grindemyr, a military advisor for the team. The Gamecatcher Alliance has one of the smallest teams in the game with only 22 players.
Unlike the four sites already mentioned, which are mostly based in America, two sites in the ISDG are essentially national teams. The German Webring Team, playing as Arabia, is a federation of German Civilization fan sites with 3900 registered users. Apolyton can claim part of the responsibility for the formation of the other ‘national’ team, called the Grenouille (‘the Frog’), which counts Belgium, Switzerland and France among its member countries.
Sébastien Wautelet, a member of Apolyton and the leader of the Grenouille explains, “I was taking part in the intrasite game on Apolyton, and had the idea to start a French-speaking team for the ISDG... A couple of other French-speaking Apolytoners who were already taking part in other democracy games joined me, and we easily gathered lots of other players on the 'Grenouille' French-speaking Civilization forum.”
Being based outside America hasn’t been a serious handicap to the Grenouille team. There are some minor inconveniences caused by the difference in time zones that affect diplomacy and the arrival of savegames, but on the whole they don’t feel disadvantaged. “On the positive side, communication inside the team is probably easier as everyone speaks his native language; I think there are still quite a lot of non-English speakers in other teams. The fact that everyone is inside the same time zone also makes it easier for everyone to meet at the same time for IRC chats,” says Wautelet.
The eighth team in the ISDG is none other than the game’s developer itself, Firaxis. Officially, the team only includes three of its employees, but one of them is Sören Johnson, creator of the Civilization 3’s formidable artificial intelligence system. Firaxis stands out as a target in the ISDG; who wouldn’t want to beat the developers at their own game? Rodrigo Aguilera, an Apolyton member put it eloquently, “I see no conceivable way why Firaxis would not get gang-banged eventually.” When asked about this, Johnson replied with remarkable equanimity (or perhaps naivety) “We have been a target, but I don't think anyone aimed for us because we were the developers.”
A Question of Government
In theory, since it is an Intersite Democracy Game, you would expect every team member to have an equal say in game play decisions for their civilization. In practice, things aren’t quite so simple. The problem is that a democratic system of team government doesn’t always produce the best quality of playing. Some members are more experienced than others, and even if everyone within a team was of equal ability, it just isn’t possible to conduct a vote on each individual action within a turn. Not only would this take too long, but many issues cannot be resolved by polls.
“We poll subjects of game play whenever possible. If a clear majority of the [CFC] populace wants something, it is done. However, in a game as detailed as Civilization 3, it's almost impossible to go over every single detail and play the game in a timely manner,” explains Jakob Thomeczek, leader of CFC’s team. So despite the fact that even the largest team has less than one hundred members, direct democracy in the ideal sense is not workable.
Many teams have instead opted for a representative democracy, in which members elect government ministers, such as the Foreign Minister and the Defence Minister, with executive authority in their respective spheres. These teams will often run polls to judge the feeling of all the members, although they differ widely in their power. The Grenouille team, for example, treats its polls as referendums, whereas polls in Apolyton’s governments have absolutely no legal consequence. Apolyton has a few other quirks, as consul-in-training Simon Granville describes, “You could say we are in the process of establishing a system of elected, power-sharing Monarchs; an alternating, periodically elected Triumvirate, if you will.” The consuls, not the members, elect government ministers for advisors.
The various systems of government used in the ISDG masks a deeper conflict about whether teams are playing just to have fun, or to establish their supremacy of the game. Each team realises that the reputation of their entire website – in some cases, numbering in the tens of thousands – rests on their quality of playing, which requires a certain discipline that precludes any messing about. “In my mind, the ISDG is less about the fun and more about the serious business of proving Apolyton the best in the business,” believes Granville. This doesn’t mean that playing the game is a chore, asserts Ken Freeman, a consul at Apolyton, who believes that the game is fun precisely because it is intellectually challenging.
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(continued)
Sid Meier Does Roll Dice
No matter how skilled you are Civilization, luck can still make or break your game. Luck acts in two ways; through the map, and through battles. Unless you use a custom designed map, the computer generates one randomly before each game based on a few user defined parameters such as size of continents and age of the planet. In an instructive demonstration of Jared Diamond’s theory of geography determining history, the type of terrain that your civilization finds itself in at the start of a game hugely influences your future success; a civilization that starts in the middle of a sprawling jungle is unlikely to grow as quickly as one lying in fertile grasslands.
None of the teams in the ISDG will have seen the game’s randomly generated map before. Needless to say, the types of starting point for the teams are highly diverse and will undoubtedly affect their chances of winning. Still, no team has publicly complained since they know that the starting points were also randomly assigned.
The outcome of battles in Civilization is also random. While a tank is likely to beat a group of cavalry in battle, based on their relative attack and defence strengths, there’s still a small probability that the cavalry could emerge victorious, in effect by getting lucky and rolling two sixes. These probability ‘rolls’ are governed by a random number generator (RNG). The RNG is in turn set by a ‘seed’ that - in the ISDG - persists within every savegame as a security measure against cheating. The point behind this is that without a persistent seed, teams could theoretically keep on reloading and replaying their savegames until they had favourable, if highly unlikely, results for all their battles. With a persistent seed, the probabilities are always the same so that battles will always have the same outcome even if the savegame is reloaded.
All of this means that luck can curse a team with not only an awful starting position, but also a disastrous run of bad luck in battles. Sébastien Wautelet of the Grenouille team believes that the importance of luck in the ISDG can’t be overstated. “Luck is already an important factor in Civilization, but I think it’s even more amplified in the ISDG. As the decisions are made by groups of usually very experienced players, there will be very few errors, especially in micro-management, because everyone knows the rules pretty well and knows which decision is the best. There is no place for random little errors, and those kind of errors often allow a good player who had bad luck to catch up with a poor player who had good luck.”
The result is that while no-one really believes that the team who wins the ISDG will actually be the best team in the world (apart from perhaps themselves), teams that do manage to succeed despite bad luck will be much admired.
Trust is everything
With so much at stake in the ISDG, the prospect of cheating lurks ominously in each teams’ mind. It’s trivially easy to cheat in Civilization 3 – it’s even possible to cheat accidentally. Persistent RNG seeds prevent one easy way of cheating, but there are several others that are essentially undetectable and can be used by a team to tilt the odds in their favour or reveal the entire map.
Imagine playing poker against someone who kept on getting full houses, hand after hand after hand; you’d be convinced the pack wasn’t being dealt fairly, and you’d watch the dealer’s hands very carefully from then on. Similarly, if a team defeated you in every single battle, even in the ones where it was hopelessly outmatched, it would result in a highly suspicious run of good luck that utterly defied the odds. Again, you might be certain they were cheating, but this time you can’t watch the dealer’s hands or cut the deck, because it’s all happening on a computer in a room hundreds of miles away. There’s no way you could prove that the other team cheated.
Is it possible that teams are already cheating within the ISDG? Tom Ogas, the Apolyton Minister of Foreign Affairs, thinks it may be, “but ultimately, it's a pointless issue. If they do cheat, then what? We start the game over?” The other teams are equally sanguine and prefer to rely on the ISDG Pledge for assurance. The Pledge was signed by all eight teams before the start of the game and guarantees against any kind of cheating or alteration of the savegame; if a team breaks the Pledge, it would ruin their reputations.
It’s generally believed that there’s no way that an entire team would agree to cheat; someone would eventually let slip, plagued (hopefully) by a guilty conscience. This doesn’t exclude the possibility of conspiracies within teams or unscrupulous players cheating without the knowledge of other members, but ultimately speculation is futile. “You either trust that no-one cheats, or you don't play the game,” says Ogas.
A New Kind Of Game
‘Diplomacy on crack’ is one way to describe the ISDG, but otherwise the game is opaque to outsiders who aren’t familiar with Civilization or democracy games – in other words, pretty much everyone. The combination of a highly complex strategy game with hundreds of players defies normal categorization into the normal genres of MMORPGs (massively multiplayer online roleplaying games) or simulation games like Everquest or SimCity. Even experienced Civilization players find the concept of the ISDG alien, since the delay between turns adds such a bewildering array of negotiation, debate and power politics that aren’t seen in normal games.
From a social standpoint, the ISDG is a fascinating microcosm of the real world, owing to the freedom the game provides for different strategies. It’s possible for a team to win without starting a single battle, by building enough temples, cathedrals, Wonders and universities to convince the world’s population that your culture is so magnificent that they all decide to join your civilization and desert their own. Accomplishing this would involve an exquisite grasp of domestic management, defence and diplomacy to ensure that no-one tried to destroy your lovely cathedrals, but for some teams it beats trying to crush the rest of the world militarily.
To win the ISDG, a team will have to perfectly balance conflict and co-operation, not only with other teams but between its own members. At Apolyton, the process of getting members to work together at all was difficult enough. “When the ISDG team first formed, there were already factions and rivalries in place that had formed in the [intrasite game], as well as the traditional democracy game crowd mixing with the strategy forum crowd who'd never played together before, and neither side really had much respect for the other. It took us a few weeks to gel in the beginning, but never really smoothed over until much later, perhaps a month or two into this game. All of our different rivalries and perspectives and competition in the [intrasite game] became a benefit once we learned to trust each other. We learned a great deal from playing against each other initially,” recounts Tom Ogas.
It’s interesting to step back from the details of the ISDG and observe just how different it is from other online games. There is no narrative in the ISDG other than what the players create themselves, from their own experiences and interactions. The skills players must have aren’t a quick trigger finger or good eyesight; they’re an aptitude for quick and incisive analysis, a shrewd mind and an ability for communication.
Even more so than single player Civilization, the ISDG has a long learning curve that demands an unusual amount of concentration and commitment from its players, rewarding their persistence with a dynamic and fine-grained world populated by other equally committed players. The game began in February 2003, and after six months about one hundred turns have been played; it’s likely the game could take an entire year from start to finish. Participants in the ISDG aren’t looking for quick thrills – they’re in it for the long haul.
Perhaps this is why the ISDG has only attracted three hundred players, only a fraction of the hundred thousand in the greater Civilization community, and the millions that play games such as Everquest and Ultima Online. Yet the Civilization Intersite Democracy Game is unlikely to be the last of its kind, and the idea will surely be reproduced for similar strategy games. At least part of the reason for the ISDG’s small player base is that games companies simply haven’t thought of the idea yet, or alternatively haven’t figured out how to make money out of it. Still, Soren Johnson believes that the creation of the ISDG was inevitable. “Before I began working on Civilization 4, I had never heard of the concept of a democracy game. Once I understood the idea, I expected that something like the ISDG would occur. Like most of the Net, if you can think of it, it probably exists.”
Are democracy games destined to obscurity among the more popular online games that offer quick, visceral thrills or an adventure role playing experience? It’s not really a question of whether people would be interested in playing it – given the success of Civilization itself and the diversification of the ‘gaming generation’, they would be. More relevant is whether strategy democracy games can break out of the close-knit Civilization community into the wider world.
Democracy games have evolved an assortment of rules, traditions and accepted practices that won’t easily be transplanted to a group of novice players; many fans still disagree about the rules that surround democracy games. “On the one hand, a highly complex ruleset does allow for interesting interactions between players. On the other, in can restrict gameplay,” says Thomeczek. But as more games are played and more people are introduced to the concept, it’s becoming easier to arrive at solutions that satisfy all the players and teams.
For all of this talk, the players in the ISDG aren’t worried about whether strategy democracy games will sweep the globe or how they represent a new game genre. They’re more concerned about their cities as efficient as possible, keeping up with the world in scientific development and defending their nations against aggressors. After all, that’s where the fun is.
Adrian Hon is a member of the Apolyton team and has resolutely refused to take an official post in the government in fear that it could consume his life. Thanks for this article go to representatives from the Gamecatcher Alliance, the Grenouille team, Firaxis, the Creative Design Group, the Civilization Fanatics Center and most of all, the members of the Apolyton team.
Since this article was written, three teams have been knocked out of the game: the Creative Design Group, the Grenouille team… and Firaxis.
Copyright 2003 Adrian Hon
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By the way, I would prefer it if people don't spread the article around. I don't mind if you tell a good friend about it or something, but I don't want it published anywhere on the Internet yet.
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It's brilliant! Very rich and deep.
"Teams wait for savegames in the same way that children wait for Christmas" --- so that's what I've been experiencing for the last half year!
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It is only now that I realize that the PTWDG has contributed so much towards us being the greatest team in the ISDG.
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12-08-2003 19:26
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