13-08-2003 22:49									#1
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Hi. Three weeks from now, I will take my first trip to Europe. I am staying in Paris for one week. I've rented a flat in Le Marais area of the city. Hopefully it will not be too hot there. I don't speak any French. Should I change $US into Euro or Francs? Before or after I get there? Should I avoid taxi? I will see all of the tourist attractions, but I would appreciate any advice on lesser known sights to see. Any advice at all on how to enjoy my Paris stay and save $ would be appreciated. Thanks.

	13-08-2003 22:50									#2
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	13-08-2003 22:57									#3
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Do they still use francs? It's my impression that everybody (other than UK, Sweden and Denmark) changed over in 2000 (?)

Euros are thus the common currency for most of Europe...

	13-08-2003 23:07									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Feephi I don't speak any French.

Ouch.
Buy yourself a Dictionary and try to learn some Basics of French.
Many People there in France aren´t too eager to learn english and many who do it aren´t very good english Speakers.
They are very proud with their Language, which is the reason why very much things have other names in France than in other Parts of the world.
For example you will have hard times, searching for a PC. They call it Ordinateur, as they don´t like those Aglicisms the rest of the world uses.

quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Do they still use francs? It's my impression that everybody (other than UK, Sweden and Denmark) changed over in 2000 (?) Euros are thus the common currency for most of Europe...

Of course, they use Euros in France

	13-08-2003 23:54									#5
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forget paris and go to amsterdam ... thats a place to be (and no Im not talking only about drugs).

	14-08-2003 00:07									#6
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Wait 'till it gets cooler. It's too hot right now.

	14-08-2003 00:12									#7
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what che said.

	14-08-2003 00:14									#8
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Plus, since they aren't used to the hot weather, they don't have very much air conditioning.

	14-08-2003 00:15									#9
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Take the Metro whenever you can, taxis are far more expensive, and not necessarily better.

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Be sure to stick on your "I love Dubya" t-shirt... they're very popular in France, I hear.

	14-08-2003 00:20									#11
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Yes, and dont forget to bring a big US-Flag to pin it at the Eifeltower ...

	14-08-2003 00:22									#12
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Learn to speak French and speak some French.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Plus, since they aren't used to the hot weather, they don't have very much air conditioning.

IIRC, they're better at that than the brits. That's not saying much, however.


Oh, and yes, at least attempt to speak French. They're flattered. Or at least, that has been my experience.

	14-08-2003 00:41									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Feephi I've rented a flat in Le Marais area of the city.

Well... if a guy comes to you in the street and begins to chat with a large smile, beware

(just joking : it's a very nice place, and you will litteraly be in the heart of Paris. Just know it's generally considered as the "most gay" area of Paris ).

About the taxis...as Victor Galis said, try to avoid them, they are expensive and will probably be more if they see you are a tourist ...
Metro is better, even if it's quite hot right now (but it can change in three weeks...I hope ).

quote: Originally posted by Azazel Oh, and yes, at least attempt to speak French. They're flattered. Or at least, that has been my experience.

Yeah, I think you're right about this

	14-08-2003 00:43									#15
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Yes, boycott French products

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I think a lot of the Parisians are the hypernationalist Frenchies that want things like getting rid of the word "e-mail" etc. Most Frenchmen are, understandably, okay.

Avoid the snobby Frenchmen. Visit the tourist sites, go to museums, take in the city.

And yes, get a dictionary. Learn as much French as you can.

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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* Be sure to stick on your "I love Dubya" t-shirt... they're very popular in France, I hear.

I didn't realize you hated Feephi so much that you wanted to get him killed.

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If looks could kill they'd certaintly will

	14-08-2003 01:49									#19
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An advice about France: Don't go!

So long...

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Why do you say that Pioneer Where's your cosmopolitanism?

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Do you know any spanish? Avoid English at all costs!

	14-08-2003 02:06									#22
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When walking Champs Elysee, take your most bravado voice and start singing: Allons enfants de la Patrieeee!


Nah really. I've been to Paris quite a few times. I've never had an unpleasant experience with French people. They were really helpful and friendly and charming. I spoke french to them of course.

IN PARIS, that is. NOT at the provinces. There they were either real, horrible hicks or very violent immigrants. No joking. Of couse I can't characterize all provencial french people. It was just my experience.
But Paris has left me charmed.

paris, Paris combien, Paris tous que tu veut, boulvard de boulverses paris tu m'a renverse, paris tu m;a lesse sur ton paveeee and al that. Great city.

	14-08-2003 02:06									#23
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell Avoid the snobby Frenchmen. Visit the tourist sites, go to museums, take in the city. And yes, get a dictionary. Learn as much French as you can.

Why then should he learn the language if he avoids those evil Frenchmen?

Make some friends there!!! Maybe girl friends

	14-08-2003 02:19									#24
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Why do you say that Pioneer Where's your cosmopolitanism?

Well, I've been too france a few times and each time it was a dissapointment. The french are just rude. Last year I was in Normandy with my wife and we toured Normandy. Surprise, surprise yu could not find one at any restaurant in Caen that would speak english, they did not have menus in english and besides the food being crappy it was expensive too. We wnet to an italian restaurant were pasta was excellent and we also ate Pizza Hut pizza just to be on the safe side . Besides that the hotel was also expensive and we only had trouble because the receptionist did not speak english well. I also met up with some english at some of the invasion beaches and they had similar experiences, upon which my wife said why did the allies even liberate them. It seems they do not appreciate it much these days.

On the other side the landscape was phenomenal, the history rich and the drive very interesting. I will visit the beaches again, maybe on an anniversary or something but for the moment I had enough of them.


So long....

PS: Couple weeks ago I heard that they officially banned the word email from all gov't documents!! Now they have their own word that has to be used. This is so typical frech that it makes me puke.

	14-08-2003 02:27									#25
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Entirely possible

I can only vouch for Paris and with the prerequisitive that one speaks french.

	14-08-2003 02:32									#26
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Walk up to a beautiful French woman and say:

Je pense que vous avez volé mon poulet.

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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 Walk up to a beautiful French woman and say: Je pense que vous avez volé mon poulet.

I think that you have stolen my chicken. ???????

Dang, my French is rusty.

	14-08-2003 02:34									#28
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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 Walk up to a beautiful French woman and say: Je pense que vous avez volé mon poulet.

In Paris ???

The only "poulets" in Paris are the cops (yeah, that's how we call them sometimes - but they do not really appreciate it ).

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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 Walk up to a beautiful French woman and say: Je pense que vous avez volé mon poulet.

Better yet say "Voici le stylo de ma tante"

	14-08-2003 02:42									#30
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You can follow that up with:

J'espere que vous dormirez avec moi ce soir. (did I get the futur tense right?)