14-08-2003 18:20									#61
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Braveheart!

	14-08-2003 18:46									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Soul Survivor decent list, but missing a lot of movies..... and a few that shouldn't be there, matrix, fight club, gladiator..... all pretty good movies, but far from greatest movie ever

I had forgotten about Fight Club. It was good enough to at least be nominated for Best Picture.

Gladiator did win Best Picture. Not all on that list did.

Still, I voted for The Empire Strikes Back.

	14-08-2003 19:39									#63
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Bah! No hitchcock movies (pycho, North by northwest), not Kubrick films (2001, Clockwork Orange, The Shining, Paths of Glory), no great Westerns like Good, Bad, Ugly, man, these kids today have no appreciation for film, if the Matrix is seen as some pinnacle, even of fun moviemaking (what about Jaws or Indiana Jones when it comes to fun?)

	14-08-2003 19:47									#64
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Yes... no Hitchcock or Kubrick...
Kind of confirms the "beauty contest" nature of this competition

But knowing the average age of people on this site... no surprise

	14-08-2003 19:53									#65
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So true, Ming. The truly tragic thing is that "Dumb and Dumber" got more votes than any Kubrick*, Hitchcock, Ford, or even Spielberg movie.

*I can't stand his films, but admit to their high quality... especially compared to D&D.

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	14-08-2003 20:41									#66
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the poll is worthless

	14-08-2003 20:54									#67
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Worthless... not at all. It shows which movies posters here found the most enjoyable to watch. Nothing wrong with that. I guess it comes down to the definition of "best movie"... what makes a movie the "Best"...

Citizan Kane is a great movie. It had many things that had never been tried before. It is a land mark classic.

But is it as exciting as the Matrix... no way. While I find Citizan Kane enjoyable to watch, and am totally impressed with what was done back at that time... and the political satire of the story... and even the surprise ending of the story... I will admit that the Matrix is probably more entertaining... But which is the better film... I would say CK for many different reasons...

I could come up with reasons to support every movie on this list (well, maybe not for Braveheart)... but I don't agree that this list represents the best of the best.

But that's just a matter of opinion

	14-08-2003 22:03									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Ming ... but I don't agree that this list represents the best of the best.

You are absolutely right.... It needs something... something with skeletons and zombies and a guy with a chainsaw attached to his hand...

It needs a little Army of Darkness. (The name by itself blows the competition away: Evil Dead 3-Army of Darkness)

the thought of Army of Darkness in the same poll as Citizen Kane or the Godfather is funny... but if you're going to put Matrix and Braveheart in there, you might as well add it too...

	14-08-2003 22:04									#69
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I agree with the people saying that the choices on this poll for best movie ever are mostly ridiculous.

Still, Chinatown.

	14-08-2003 22:49									#71
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well "Most Enjoyable To Watch" does not necessarily equal "Best Ever Movie".... and no matter what Gladiator can't compare to Citizen Kane, Shawshank or Chinatown

I'm not saying my opinion is better than someone else's..... wait, actually thats exactly what I'm saying

	14-08-2003 23:51									#72
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I'd go with the first LOTR, which I think was better than many on the list.

First movie where I sat down in the theatre and was shocked, genuinely and pleasantly surprised, by how well it turned out. Great Flick.

	14-08-2003 23:53									#73
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This is going to be a tight race.

	15-08-2003 00:03									#74
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I am still puzzled by the Gladiator.

Why people like it? I simply don't get it, it's a unique film in that sense, I can somehow understand all of the other options on that list. It was hyped like crazy, everyone gave it 5 stars and when I saw it, It was the definition of mediocre. Nothing special, nothing very bad either. Only thing It had going on it was that it's movie about Gladiators since.... whenever (long time probably). Anyone care to comment? Maybe tell me what makes it so good? I have only seen it the one time at the cinema...

When someone invents a good idea and puts it on the big screen he also steals something away from the future moviemakers. Only one can be the first. Which movie is better, the one that had the original idea or the one that copies it and instead of ****ing it up actually makes a better version? Should I like the first more because I respect it more? And who did they rip the idea of in the first place anyway, some book? Also the trick is that the movie I see first will probably be my choice for the better one because it takes away something from the movie I see after it, unless the second one is much better.
So I think I'll have to agree, the more you enjoy the better it is.

	15-08-2003 00:09									#75
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I enjoyed Gladiator. It was well done, good acting, the script was solid, great action scenes, excellent direction... It's one of my favorite (Not BEST) films. Anytime I see it when surfing the movie channels, I'm a sucker, and will stop and usually watch it until the end.

But after saying all that... one of the 10 best films of all time...

I feel the same about the Matrix... fun to watch, nice special effects... but one of the top ten films of all time...

	15-08-2003 00:45									#76
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quote: I feel the same about the Matrix... fun to watch, nice special effects... but one of the top ten films of all time...

Blasphemer!

	15-08-2003 00:46									#77
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quote: Only thing It had going on it was that it's movie about Gladiators since.... whenever (long time probably).

Caligula, perhaps?

	15-08-2003 01:02									#78
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Ming likes crap like "Children of The Corn".
Reminds him of the forum.

	15-08-2003 01:07									#79
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quote: I thought that MOVIES with an "S" at the end was a pretty good indication that there needed to be more than one.

No no NO! You see, along with the new math comes the new english where adding an "s" to movie still means "movie".

	15-08-2003 01:09									#80
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quote: Originally posted by iamlod You are absolutely right.... It needs something...

More Cowbell?
/Walken

And what's the deal with not a single Christopher Walken movie in the poll? The Deerhunter maybe?

	15-08-2003 01:10									#81
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Why not Nick of Time or Suicide Kings?

	15-08-2003 01:41									#82
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Go godfather, GO!!!

	15-08-2003 07:26									#83
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Still FC, even though I saw it on VHS for $4.99 at a pawn shop, right next to "Pretty Woman." Hmm...there's an interesting juxtaposition.

	15-08-2003 08:41									#84
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What is Matrix doing in this poll? I mean, c'mon, it's got Keanu Reeves. Braveheart looks like the most decent film in the list.

	15-08-2003 09:12									#85
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This poll is sooo silly. No John Ford. No Preston Sturges. No Chaplin, Buster Keaton, Robert Wise, Kubrick, Hitchcock, Renoir, Lang, Ophuls, Sirk, in fact nothing that wouldn't have impinged on the consciousness of some whacked out Valley Girl (except perhaps Citizen Kane....).

No Indian films. No Chinese films. No German or Italian or French cinema represented.

And Braveheart!!!!! I've done more cinematic dumps!!!!

Star Wars!!!! Why not nominate 'the Jetsons', for Gawd's sake? Hmm, yes, the great acting range of Mark Hamill, from A to ...... A, and back again.

I understand. Films for grown ups like 'Culloden', 'The World of Apu' and 'L'Armee des Ombres' are just not as gee whizz bang as 'Braveheart' and 'the Matrix'.

	15-08-2003 10:46									#86
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quote: Originally posted by gunkulator More Cowbell? /Walken And what's the deal with not a single Christopher Walken movie in the poll? The Deerhunter maybe?

A classic skit. I'm thinking perhaps it needs more cowbell.

	15-08-2003 11:31									#87
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quote: No Chaplin

I thought of nominating "The Great Dictator", that scene where Chaplin/Hitler is bouncing the balloon with the world imprinted on it is classic.

	15-08-2003 12:30									#88
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quote: I understand. Films for grown ups like 'Culloden', 'The World of Apu' and 'L'Armee des Ombres' are just not as gee whizz bang as 'Braveheart' and 'the Matrix'.

Grown ups, fashion snobs, what's the difference eh.

	15-08-2003 14:10									#89
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What is it that some people don't like about Braveheart?!?

	15-08-2003 14:31									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Verto What is Matrix doing in this poll? I mean, c'mon, it's got Keanu Reeves. Braveheart looks like the most decent film in the list.

Don't blame me. Blame the people who nominated it.