15-08-2003 01:02									#1
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I don't know if a thread was already made about this. I went back a few pages and didn't see any...

I saw on the news last night that they're planning on creating new high schools for gay and lesbian students as a result of a recent lawsuit.

Apparently, gay rights activists think its a bad idea to isolate them from the rest of the student population. And something like 70% of the people polled thought it was a mistake while less than 30% said it was good. And I can tell you right now, those 30% are not gay and lesbian supporters... they're people who don't want their children in the same class with gay and lesbian students.

Anyway, what do you think?

And had you heard of this? Do you have any more details?

	15-08-2003 01:05									#2
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Seperation = segregation = racist/discrimination. NO.

I don't know why anyone in their right mind would support seperate schools for gays unless they hated gays.

Seperation does NOT bring acceptance.

Whoever thought up the idea should be given a daily beating.

	15-08-2003 01:07									#3
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I agree!

	15-08-2003 01:15									#4
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I'll go with how can one preach "integration" and acceptance, then segregate schools ?

	15-08-2003 01:19									#5
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how does a 5 yr old know he's gay?

Apparanlty most people only realise in their mid/late teens.

Do you just 'guess'?

'He lookes gay, send him to the fag school!'


The idea is auwfully silly for many reasons.

	15-08-2003 01:27									#6
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On the other hand if the school is just guaranteeing sexual tolerance there's no harm in it. It doesn't ban straight people although no doubt most parents would be terrified at sending their child to a school that would tolerate him or her being gay as this would increase their chances of deciding to go gay one day.

	15-08-2003 01:35									#7
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Any school should guarantee tolerance in all things.
THAT'S the point.

	15-08-2003 01:35									#8
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I think there should be far extreme schools for Gibbymeister people.

	15-08-2003 01:38									#9
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Separation of people by sexual orientation is just extreme nonsense.

So I voted no -- gay and lesbian students ought to go schools with their heterosexual peers.

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segrigation never works. sooner or latter these people will have to join the real world where everyone isn't exactly like them and the sooner they learn to deal with real life the better prepared they will be to deal with real life.

	15-08-2003 02:02									#11
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Well of course all schools should guarantee tolerance. Can't see it happening ever, but hey.

	15-08-2003 02:31									#12
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As I said earlier, I prefer special schools for the people who harass the gays and make them unsafe.

	15-08-2003 02:45									#13
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i say segregate them, I wouldn't want my straight kids (when I get them) to catch their gayness from the drinking fountain...

	15-08-2003 02:50									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Japher i say segregate them, I wouldn't want my straight kids (when I get them) to catch their gayness from the drinking fountain...

No, that's not the secret way that we convert kids to become gay.

We wave a wand over their heads, and chant, "hocus, pocus!"

	15-08-2003 02:53									#15
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ah, hence the slur "fairies"

	15-08-2003 02:53									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Japher ah, hence the slur "fairies"

well, DUH

	15-08-2003 02:59									#17
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I voted No - I don't think gay kids should get such special priveleges. In fact, no one should get such a 'privilege'. It is idiotic.

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Ahh, hell. I changed my mind. Let's round all the fags up and send them to a special school

	15-08-2003 03:14									#19
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Thumbs down.
I'm more or less indifferent on every issue having to do with sexual orientation; I oppose the idea mainly because it makes no sense to go flushing money from our already-strained educational budget down the toilet like this. I mean, how big of a percentage of students are openly gay?
Come to think of it, it would be in the best interests of conservatives to encourage open homosexuality, wouldn't it? Assuming sexual orientation has a genetic component, as I've heard, more gays out of the closet=less straight sex among homosexuals=a lot fewer gay people a few generations down the road. Assuming no heterozygote advantage and blahblahblah...I don't really know what I'm talking about, but am I right?

	15-08-2003 03:16									#20
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quote: I don't really know what I'm talking about, but am I right?

Yes, you are right; you don't know what you are talking about.

Honestly, you are right, we can't afford this and shouldn't even be an issue, especially when we are to encourage equality. This is the type of backward logic I excpet from bigots... I did, however, hear that a law suit was filed against the city about this school this morning... ?

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I really don't know. I'm totally against forcing people to go to them.

But the public schools here are "segregated" if you want: there's a public boys school, public girls school, public sports school, public "career" school (mechanic apprentice + highschool, etc). So I really don't see why there'd be a problem if they also added a public gay school, where gay students who felt they were getting buillied to the point of it affecting their education could go.

	15-08-2003 03:19									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Elok I mean, how big of a percentage of students are openly gay?

Erm, that's one of the main reasons people argue in favor of them.

The vast majority of gay youths have to live a lie in regular highschools because they're fairly homophobic in nature, some worse than others.

	15-08-2003 03:22									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Erm, that's one of the main reasons people argue in favor of them. The vast majority of gay youths have to live a lie in regular highschools because they're fairly homophobic in nature, some worse than others.

So instead they want to round 'em all up in a single building where they can be bombed en masse? What kind of dimwits think these things up?

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Yup, put 'em all in one spot so that when you feel like doing a little gay bashing... you know where to go!

	15-08-2003 03:24									#25
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Just what are you guys talking about?

The last time I've checked, all of the proposals are for schools that aren't mandatory. You're not forced to go there, at all.

It exists as an option for students who feel they can't learn at a school where they are constantly harassed for their sexuality.

It's not rounding them up in a single building, it's providing them a haven so they can learn, too.

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Also it would be a place where we could find them if we wanted them.

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It shouldn't even be an option.

	15-08-2003 04:13									#28
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A mistake... for people that are different, it's bad to grow up like that - they may end up thinking everyone is like them.

Those gays will be in for a shock when they're 18 and find out there are straight guys...

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I think a lot of people are confused -- aren't we talking about gay high school.

	15-08-2003 05:08									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Elok ...I don't really know what I'm talking about, but am I right?

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