15-08-2003 17:51									#1
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Lets think worst case scenerios again.

Trading has been observed between the Pirates and University. Continued University delays suggest further trading is being planned.

Test...

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	15-08-2003 18:49									#2
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We are still in the early days. In the early days everybody just tries to get whatever he can get from whoever he meets. But I believe the world structure is doomed to change in the future.

Is Pirates the only one who have contacts with more than one faction? If that hasn't made them into the first place in the power graph, then maybe we don't need to sweat.

	15-08-2003 18:51									#3
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They're first in the power graph.

	15-08-2003 19:28									#4
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	15-08-2003 20:13									#5
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Blah, Hive and Drones will kick them off the planet. And then we'll kick the Drones off too

-Jam

	15-08-2003 22:03									#6
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quote: Blah, Hive and Drones will kick them off the planet. And then we'll kick the Drones off too

ind33d

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	16-08-2003 02:59									#7
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I'm kindof glad that we have set teams in the PBEM. I wouldn't be able to trust you guys very far.

But seriously would we really be able to do that?

	16-08-2003 04:45									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Kody I'm kindof glad that we have set teams in the PBEM. I wouldn't be able to trust you guys very far. But seriously would we really be able to do that?

Indeed we can. The University/Pirates/CyCon, if such an ungodly alliance ever took place, lack our industrial capabilities. The Pirates are the only ones of the three that could potentially pose a thread when armed with the tech of the other two, but even then they are limited by two important factors 1) if they were the aggressors they would be forced to face our industrial superiority on our playing, and 2) we can easily outproduce them, and hence our combined forces would be much larger. Despite the words of Coloner Santiago on the superiority of a small number of well trained, well equipped troops, the fact remains that by numbers alone we can take them.

Thus I think we have little to worry about. And contingency plans have already been discussed with the Marshal, as have our future expansion plans. The Hive stands ready.

	16-08-2003 18:41									#9
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Unless we get bounced by Missile Marines... what CAN we do against them? Suggestions?

-Jam

	17-08-2003 02:47									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Unless we get bounced by Missile Marines... what CAN we do against them? Suggestions? -Jam

We can strike first before they have a chance.

	17-08-2003 12:03									#11
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Voltaire is right in saying we should strike first, keep momentum on our side. To ensure this is indeed always the case continued and frequent naval patrols will ensure that we detect and intercept any invasion force well before it lands on our shores. Even if we cannot destroy it, detection will give us more than enough time to prepare defences. But yes, the best defence is always attack. We should try our best to avoid having conflict rage on our soil, rather let the plunder take place in the home of our enemy.

- Rokossovky

	17-08-2003 15:14									#12
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The problem with marines is that when carried on a cruiser (and perhaps with the maritime cont. cen.) they can strike from a very long way away, perhaps from within a pirate base 8 squares from our shores, and capture a base without warning.

-Jam

	17-08-2003 18:57									#13
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So you should make either you or the Drones getting the MCC a priority?

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We still need to broach our suspicions first. Also we don't have enough evidence.

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Re: the 8 square thing... yea, that is a problem. But as I said, if we are sufficiently vigilant with our patrols we will notice something before they strike. And lastly as Voltaire pointed out, I don't plan to ever be on the defensive.

Also, Googlie is right with the Maritime Command Centre, one of us needs it (prefferably us). That and the Command Nexus are important military SP's. The morale boost that the Command Nexus gives will make our armed forces much more capable.

Also, hopefully by the time marines start showing up we will have in place at least 2 garissons in every city. This combined with the Command Nexus, and our built in perimeter defence will make taking a city a very difficult affair for any attacker. If we adopt the construction of a High Readiness Brigade (as is briefly touched on in the White Paper of 2125), then even if the city is taken we will be able to recapture it and launch a counter-assualt against the enemy positions before they can gain sufficient momentum to begin a break through into our heartland.

Once again, I cannot stress the importance of maintaining a large and powerful navy at all times. Our ground forces can remain reliatively small, and be in need of mobilization if we are to go to war, but our navy should be at or near 100% at all times. Superiority of the seas will not only hamper the movements of our adversaries but will prevent them from interferring with our plans for future conquest (historical example would be the british (no brainer)... almost always outnumbered in total troop volume by the other major european powers, but yet they managed to frustrate all of their plans of expansion and then themselves took control of more than a third of the planet).

	17-08-2003 23:53									#16
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We need not act on evidence but rather on prudence. The fact remains that the other factions do pose a threat to us, we will have to act against them sooner or latter. My motto has always been: “Expect the worst, and hope for the best.” That way you’re never disappointed nor caught off guard.

	18-08-2003 08:34									#17
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As usual Voltaire hits the nail on the head.

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	18-08-2003 11:55									#18
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* Jamski worries about those endless shorelines of the Hive continent. Perhaps sea trawlers with deep radar are the solution?
We sould possibly pop out some sea bases as soon as we can too, we can't let the Pirates expand up to our shore-line.

-Jam

	19-08-2003 01:40									#19
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ORPs, that's what we need.

	19-08-2003 03:05									#20
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Another idea along the lines of what jamski was thinking is to just have a foil with hand weapons, but equip it with deep radar. Effectively what you have is a PT boat. Really cheap to produce, good for patroling and popping pods and the such. The idea of putting deep radar on our trawlers is an excellent anywho. That way we can detect an enemy approching to attack them and move them out of harms way (plus, as he pointed out, they can act as an early warning net, complimenting our regular force).

Also, it is a good idea to surround your island with your own bases. But with that comes the problem that they will be very easy to probe and require a lot of effort to defend as they are isolated from our ground forces.

- Rokossovky

	19-08-2003 03:39									#21
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Its better than having all OUR bases sea squares used by another faction though...

-Jam

	19-08-2003 09:41									#22
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yea true.

	19-08-2003 18:22									#23
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Where is the flexibility?