16-08-2003 05:10									#1
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One of the last neighborhoods in Manhattan to get back on the grid.

Aside from some necessary stuff around the apartment... my first destination?

	16-08-2003 05:20									#2
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What was that joke I heard once: "If adisson wouldn't have invented the light bulb, we had to use candles to use our computers in the dark..."

Welcome back to the modern age.

	16-08-2003 05:30									#3
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Good to have you back, General.

	16-08-2003 05:47									#4
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I just caught up... what a friggin' mess!!

Did RP play their turn? Results, please?

I feel like ND and GoW have had a long-standing caucus and discussion on making 3-move attackers the fundamental underpinning of their strategy and tactics... perhaps, just as we commented in the early game that some of the best thought was being discussed here, and not in the Strat forum, we are going to find that 3-move attacker strategy (without equal opponents, so not re Cavs) has been most thoroughly examined in their two private forums.

Strategic pillaging, movement / defense, rapid thrusts, dealing with slowmovers... sounds friggin' Rumsfeldian.

In other words, we are being outmaneuvered in a game of maneuver. It's not just that they HAVE 3-move units, but they are disposing their forces and running the war that way.

I need to ponder this a little. My gut reaction, and this jives with the mistake at Toledo, is that we need to be thinking much more about key transit and defensive points, and we need a LOT more defensive units to control the battlefield... then we can take these bastards down.

	16-08-2003 05:51									#5
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RP hasn't played their turn yet.
They're pondering over whether to switch governments (with a tendancy towards Monarchy).

	16-08-2003 06:23									#6
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Don't look at the RP thread if you have a weak stomach.

Its ov-a for RP, ov-a for us.

Looks like not attacking that stack at toledo was the biggest mistake of the game for us. (other than getting involved in this)

	16-08-2003 06:43									#7
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I would not go that far, Sleepy.

We do need to come up with more effective tactics vs them, and a plan for how to cripple one or the other of GoW or ND.

	18-08-2003 13:42									#8
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I wouldn't say that getting involved was a big mistake - if RP go down we still have a nice set of cities on Bob, which we have the capacity to defend pretty well I think. That's more than we would have got sitting around in Stormia, and we haven't lost many units to get to this point (although it may cost us more to hold it - I suspect ND would be willing to make peace with us once RP is gone though, with a little inducement - since we are blocking GoW's expansion, not theirs).

	19-08-2003 01:03									#9
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quote: Originally posted by vulture I wouldn't say that getting involved was a big mistake - if RP go down we still have a nice set of cities on Bob, which we have the capacity to defend pretty well I think. That's more than we would have got sitting around in Stormia, and we haven't lost many units to get to this point (although it may cost us more to hold it - I suspect ND would be willing to make peace with us once RP is gone though, with a little inducement - since we are blocking GoW's expansion, not theirs).

I think that GoW has been deliberately leaving us alone (save bilbao) to have a post RP peace with us-perhaps they view us as the only way to displace ND or lego.

	19-08-2003 01:45									#10
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Then why would they tick us off in the public forum? This is certainly no way to prepare the grounds for future cooperation.

This could still work, though. GoW might have made such plans, but regardless of those plans got emotional when faced with our different approach and some of their members went out of control.
It's an interesting theory. Good thinking. Let's look out for any signs.

Btw, something that might reinforce this theory: I've read in a log between NYE and RP'ers that GoW has had contacts with RP recently and tried to convince them to help GoW against ND. Or maybe I got it wrong. If so, NYE, could you set me right?

	19-08-2003 04:26									#11
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I thought it was to backstab GS.

	19-08-2003 05:02									#12
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It was to back stab GS.

	19-08-2003 05:21									#13
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Well, that's what I thought.

Speaking of backstabbing, have we reached out to GoW? They, uh, get the concept.

	19-08-2003 06:56									#14
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I think the time is nearly ripe for the backstab of ND-RP looks finished, GoW has committed visibly to said defeat. No rider reinforcements have come down, I would have expected some, unless they are waiting for another 20 or so at once.