17-08-2003 02:21									#1
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There is a half-dead seagull in my garden. It looked dead at first glance, but my mother poured water on it and it drank. I used a wet tissue to drip more water into it's mouth, without touching it. It drank, opened it's eyes and even raised it's head a bit.

What should I do?

EDIT: Don't vote above! It is to late. The bastard died only a few hours after I posted the thread and got it's head eaten by a predator. Now I'm only waiting for the virus it carried to break out and kill my family.

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	17-08-2003 02:26									#2
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I bet it tastes like chicken.

	17-08-2003 02:29									#3
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Put it out of its misery.

	17-08-2003 02:36									#4
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Is there an animal shelter, of some kind, in the area?

	17-08-2003 02:43									#5
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It may have been stunned by a collision with another bird, heat or something else, or it may be ill (and unable to fly now) due to disease, age or parasitic infection.

Monitor it for a while, see if it shows increasing signs of activity, or if it's just kind of barely there with no sign of improvement.

If it's drinking, that's a good sign in general. It may need food as well. Make sure it has beakside access, dribble some water to it like you did at first, maybe offer it some food the same way.

Birds tend to go pretty fast, so if it's responsive the way you described, that's generally a good sign.

	17-08-2003 02:44									#6
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Oh, I forgot the picture of the semi-cadavera:

	17-08-2003 02:52									#7
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	17-08-2003 02:52									#8
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	17-08-2003 02:54									#9
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The pic shows the bird before it drank. It later opened it's eyes and moved it's head quite much.

	17-08-2003 02:57									#10
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Is there an animal shelter, of some kind, in the area?

I know a guy who takes care of rare owl species, but I doubt that he would care about a seagull.

	17-08-2003 02:57									#11
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Looks like a collision or fight injury. No way to tell for sure, and no way to tell if it has internal injuries, but if that and the fall to the ground is all that happened, it may have a decent chance.

Tachycardia is the biggest problem with avian traumatic injuries. If it doesn't conk itself out fairly quick from the stress, then you're just in wait and see mode.

Are there any tree-hugger type avian veterinarians where you are?

	17-08-2003 03:03									#12
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The problem is, I saw a French-Swedish movie last night, that was similar to the American Movie "Outbreak" with Dustin Hoffman, but without a happy ending. There, a lethal virus spread from seagulls to both human and chickens and killed blindly and brutally. After feeding water to the bird for a while I suddenly recalled the movie and took a step back to think - AARRGGHH!!

	17-08-2003 03:03									#13
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Oh just kill the thing. One less flying rat.

	17-08-2003 03:11									#14
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Do whatever you can to save it.

	17-08-2003 03:32									#15
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Alka selzer will help it get better.

	17-08-2003 03:34									#16
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MtG: Why do you know so much?

	17-08-2003 03:47									#17
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I'm kidding about the alka selzer. That will kill it.

	17-08-2003 03:47									#18
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well

that explains where option 3 came from

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	17-08-2003 03:49									#19
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quote: Originally posted by TCO I'm kidding about the alka selzer. That will kill it.

I seriously doubt I will find it alive tomorrow anyway. If I were Mother Nature, it would be dead from dehydration by tomorrow morning...

	18-08-2003 00:30									#20
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This morning it was gone. We initially thought it had recovered and taken off, but later I found it under a bush 10 meters away. During the night, my cat had taken care of the problem in a cat's way...

	18-08-2003 00:33									#21
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Cats are like that, yeah, they are.

For future reference; anything TCO says should be taken with a grain, no, a pound of salt.

	18-08-2003 00:36									#22
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That's nature, kids.

	18-08-2003 00:38									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Olaf Hårfagre This morning it was gone. We initially thought it had recovered and taken off, but later I found it under a bush 10 meters away. During the night, my cat had taken care of the problem in a cat's way...

We have five cats and two dogs in the back, so we have the whole thing roofed in with bird block mesh, mostly to keep the cats in and safe. Three birds have managed for whatever reason to find a way in, despite the bird block all around.

	18-08-2003 00:55									#24
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some just have a death-wish it seems.

I remember when I rescued a wounded pigeon from a raven. we kept him for a couple of days, and healed him. The funny part was the way my dog looked at him. SOMETHING UNHUMAN AROUND THE HOUSE. I don't know who was more scared.

	21-08-2003 00:02									#25
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AARRGGHH!!
Option 3 was the correct one. My local newspaper had a story about dead seagulls all over the coastline and that the cause is a virus. I hope it's not harmful to people and cats.

	21-08-2003 00:07									#26
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Holy **** Olaf... I hope it didn't harm you or your family.

Btw, if I had seen the thread when it was new, I'd have voted the 2nd option, but I wouldn't have taken an axe, but a spade.

	21-08-2003 00:14									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Olaf Hårfagre The problem is, I saw a French-Swedish movie last night, that was similar to the American Movie "Outbreak" with Dustin Hoffman, but without a happy ending. There, a lethal virus spread from seagulls to both human and chickens and killed blindly and brutally.

What was the name of the movie ?
And Olaf, make sure to go to the docor as soon as something unusual happens

	21-08-2003 01:02									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor What was the name of the movie ? And Olaf, make sure to go to the docor as soon as something unusual happens

It was a 3 hour TV movie in 2 parts. The Swedish title translates to "Virus in Paradise". I don't know the French title but the leading parts were played by Richard Bohringer, Fejia Deliba and Martin Forsström.

And for the bird, I didn't touch it with my hands. I used a pitchfork to transfer the cadavera to a plastic bag which I trew in the garbage bin. But my cat or some other animal, possible a badger, had eaten a part of the gulls head.

	21-08-2003 01:12									#29
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Olaf, it's probably going to die anyway...

We had a bird that fell out of a tree, and it's injuries were pretty minor, but it still died in our care anyway. IIRC, wild birds tend not to survive too long in such conditions.

But if there is a place to take it, take it there.


EDIT: Nevermind!

	21-08-2003 01:14									#30
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Who gives a crap? It's only a damn seagull...