04-09-2003 22:02									#121
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia I can't, I'm a microsoft addict.

I'm sure you can get a patch for that.

	04-09-2003 23:30									#122
	Inflate your Upload Space

I think it's Linux.

	04-09-2003 23:50									#123
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Another day and another +1 from the gator thread. It would be nice if someone wouldget that screenie for us.

	05-09-2003 00:12									#124
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I honestly fail to understand why the given information is not enough for Dan to locate the culprit. This is by no means an accusation. I just don't see what extra information we could give. On the other hand, I haven't gotten the Gator for at least 3 days now. Is anyone still getting it?

Asmodean

	05-09-2003 02:10									#125
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Well, HTML and JavaScript can't do this, it's gotta be ActiveX. That's why people who don't use MSIE have no problems with it. For those who use MSIE - try turning off ActiveX or at least set warning.

hi ,

not seeing it all with A-X , ......

tested on three comps , so that aint it neither ,.........


have a nice day

	05-09-2003 02:55									#126
	Tired of ads?

quote: Originally posted by Asmodean I honestly fail to understand why the given information is not enough for Dan to locate the culprit. This is by no means an accusation. I just don't see what extra information we could give.

What you have said above is fair comment, Asmodean, and by no means is any ill intent taken.

The problem is that the technical information provided here to date unfortunately does not include any meaningful marker that I have been able to find -- be it a company name, domain, cross-referenceable identification number or what you have -- to identify the offending advertiser(s) that we have signed on .

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Dan; Apolyton CS

	05-09-2003 04:26									#127
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And I doubt that we will ever discover the "smoking gun" since it looks like the unscrupulous advertiser is covering their tracks rather well...

	05-09-2003 05:53									#128
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So what Dan, how many ad services do you have? Is there any doubt that the main provider is responsible. Come on take some action.

	05-09-2003 10:39									#129
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , not seeing it all with A-X , ...... tested on three comps , so that aint it neither ,......... have a nice day

I bet you won't have the problem with a Linux box running Moz or Konquerer.

	05-09-2003 11:26									#130
	Tired of ads?

You see, it'll be tough to find the smoking gun because Apolyton does not follow ceteris paribus.

	05-09-2003 12:25									#131
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Maybe require to see what possible URL any given advertizer could possibly link to. I know this would be difficult, but those advertizers with nothing to hide should have no problem giving out this information. Unless the companies that Apolyton has signed up with, then use subcompanies that also use subcompanies etc.

This sucks

Asmodean

	05-09-2003 13:18									#132
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It's an ActiveX applet, Panag. Read what I said. Alas, it also seems to appear on MSIE only under Windows.

Dan,

just get donations and premium memberships available, and we can get rid of ads in no time.

	05-09-2003 14:53									#133
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger I bet you won't have the problem with a Linux box running Moz or Konquerer.

I'm trying to look at this statement from all angles, all perspectives... but I fail to see why this is a reasonable suggestion.

	06-09-2003 03:01									#134
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

Seen the ad as well on the uni computers.

Again, all I could provide has already been shown by Asmodean, et al.

I concur with the suggestion to request that all advertisers to apolyton reveal their secondary sites. The companies that decline, you can refuse to allow them to advertise on Apolyton, on the grounds of this Gator problem.

	06-09-2003 03:31									#135
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Lets see if I can do a screenshot.

I have a thin window for interland, that I can't close unless I drag the ad half-way across the screen. Seems very similar at first glance to the Gator ad.

I don't know if this helps, but I'll post it up anyway.

	06-09-2003 14:55									#136
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Are some of the adds not region specific? I haven't had a gator ad from here and it might help if we could identify the region that those who have had the add originate from. If its all we know its a general ad. That would at least reduce the size of the haystack that needs to be combed through.

	06-09-2003 17:15									#137
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I'm getting it in Germany with monotonus reguralrity.

-Jam

	06-09-2003 18:57									#138
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I got it here in Denmark. But the last 4 days, I haven't seen it. My Apolyton habits haven't changed, though. So it's pretty strange that it has stopped, as everyone else is still getting it.

Asmodean

	06-09-2003 20:27									#139
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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy I'm trying to look at this statement from all angles, all perspectives... but I fail to see why this is a reasonable suggestion.

That is a personal problem.

	06-09-2003 20:31									#140
	Tired of ads?

Why not back up your statement with arguments instead of insults? Try it, it might make a nice change.

	06-09-2003 22:23									#141
	Put an end to popups!

Dan, just stop buying ads from whoever your provider is. It is not up to you to trace it down. It is up to UGO or whoever.

	07-09-2003 00:23									#142
	Put an end to popups!

UGO has been very responsive to a crtain other site in tracking down the third party providers who do this and deep sixing them. I am not certain what technical info from the site was required, but whatever it was, they got it.

Last edited by Lefty Scaevola on 07-09-2003 at 02:38

	07-09-2003 00:44									#143
	Suffering from ads?

looks like Lefty is backing me up. Dan pullus headus out of assus.

	07-09-2003 02:19									#144
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quote: Originally posted by Asuka It's an ActiveX applet, Panag. Read what I said. Alas, it also seems to appear on MSIE only under Windows. Dan, just get donations and premium memberships available, and we can get rid of ads in no time.

hi ,

still not seeing it , with MS or acticve X , ........ thanks to some free web tools , ......

TCO , agreed , its time

have a great day

	07-09-2003 02:32									#145
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I think many testers and a conclusion that Gator is an ActiveX applett would marginally be more reputable than your "test", panag.

Quite frankly, I pity those who a) use MSIE b) don't have a pop-up blocker c) willfully let pop-ups appear.

	07-09-2003 02:40									#146
	Put an end to popups!

Even after catching one of the third party providers, you go through the same thing with another one periodically. The way to keep them off is to limit the Ad company to ads runs on their server, without third party providers.

	07-09-2003 03:33									#147
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Just hold them responsible Dan. Grow some cojones. Start looking for another service. Or start susbscription. Be a credible threat to leave.

	07-09-2003 04:30									#148
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Trouble is... Apolyton has signed onto umpteen services

	07-09-2003 18:11									#149
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Which is why we need a subscription model ASAP.

@Frozzy: I wilfully let pop-ups appear. But I only do it to help locate the Gator culprit.

Asmodean

Oh and panag: Gator is installed via an ActiveX applet

have a nice day

	07-09-2003 18:15									#150
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quote: Originally posted by Asmodean Which is why we need a subscription model ASAP. @Frozzy: I wilfully let pop-ups appear. But I only do it to help locate the Gator culprit. Asmodean Oh and panag: Gator is installed via an ActiveX applet have a nice day

hi ,

and still noth getting that darn gator ; ....... grrrrrrrrr

lowered all and only one beautifull lady shows up , ......

have a nice day