15-09-2003 23:59									#181
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

There was a lot of talk about this a year or more ago. I think MarkG stated that those who used pop-up blockers were keeping Apolyton from generating revenue.

The situation may have changed since then, but I'm pretty sure it hasn't.

Asmodean

	16-09-2003 00:30									#182
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Then when you see the dialogue box asking you to allow permission to run ActiveX script, say no. About 99% of the time, you don't miss anything.

Already done.

Thanks anyways.

	17-09-2003 21:38									#183
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Dan, just a heads-up. I just got tagged again by Gator while visiting Apolyton. Did you turn on a certain advertiser today?

	17-09-2003 21:42									#184
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

quote: Originally posted by Wittlich Dan, just a heads-up. I just got tagged again by Gator while visiting Apolyton. Did you turn on a certain advertiser today?

That's a personal question.

	18-09-2003 00:46									#185
	Increase Your PM Length

quote: Originally posted by Wittlich Dan, just a heads-up. I just got tagged again by Gator while visiting Apolyton. Did you turn on a certain advertiser today?

Hi Wittlich.

No, no advertisements that we turned off last Thursday have yet been re-activated. Did you have any other browser windows open at the time the Gator pop-up appeared, besides one or more displaying/interacting with pages on Apolyton? Either way, it is possible that "Gator"'s appearance is the result of its introduction at another time and/or by other means. I'm not dismissing your claim, but rather putting forth other possibilities.

Do you have/have you run spyware/malware detection and removal software recently (e.g. "Ad-adware" from http://www.lavasoftusa.com or "SpyBot Search & Destroy" from http://security.kolla.de)? I would run one of these programs for the first time or again, depending upon your history (or not) with either of these programs, and see what impact if any and for how long it has. I personally use "Ad-aware" Standard Edition.

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Dan; Apolyton CS

	18-09-2003 01:17									#186
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Holy crap, sorry Dan. I forgot to tell you too. I had Gator yesterday. I was kinda busy at the time, so I just clicked no, and continued with 'poly. I had absolutely no other browser windows open at the time, so it had to have come from a poly ad.

Asmodean

	18-09-2003 03:00									#187
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

Thanks for the quick reply Dan.

Yes, I use SpyBot religiously and I also clear my cookies everyday (except for the main Apolyton cookie ).

When Gator occured, I only had the one Apolyton browser window open...however, you've made a valid point - I (might) have visited another site prior to visiting Apolyton and hense didn't clear my cookies prior to my Apolyton visit ... so there is a possibility that it wasn't triggered by your site. I will keep better track my actions in the future and let you know if it happends again.

EDIT: Cute DrSpike, cute.

	18-09-2003 05:34									#188
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Assuming that Gator uses ActiveX, is there any way that the makers of the ad could set a delay before the ad actually appears? That would be an irritating way of disguising where the ad actually comes from.

	18-09-2003 05:53									#189
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I also got Gator on a public computer today. It left a bar open on the taskbar for about a minute or so after saying no to the Gator download.

	18-09-2003 06:10									#190
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

It does that to me everytime it pops up.

ACK!

	18-09-2003 09:33									#191
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

You guys want free entertainment, free forums, free browsing and yet you want it all FREE. Somehow your going to have to either start paying for an apolyton subscription, or just put up with spyware. One or the other. So stop complaining like babies, get Spybot and a PU blocker and off you go.

	18-09-2003 11:01									#192
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

faded:

I have no problems with a subscription, if it means not having to deal with Gator popups. I believe that I have said so many times.

	18-09-2003 12:49									#193
	Get a bigger avatar today!

faded: I'm not sure that I care for the tone in your post. Seriously. If it was an attempt at irony or sarcasm, it was at best an extremely poor attempt.

And FYI, I do use spybot and ZoneAlrm Pro. But I still want Gator gone. Why? I don't like the company, their policies or their software. Things like these including SPAM should be fought whereever and whenever they are discovered here at 'poly.

Asmodean

	18-09-2003 14:35									#194
	Got spare money?

Don't feed the troll chaps.

	18-09-2003 18:11									#195
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Besides the constant pop-ups (every time I click a link) just got a new request to install something called "web gift search" or some such bullshit.

I'll correct the name later when it comes up again (and I'm sure it will).

	21-09-2003 18:00									#196
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

We still have it. Gator, that is. This time, I got no ad, though. Only the security warning.

I am 100% sure that it came from Apolyton. I have had no other websites open today. And I cleared my cookies just this morning.

See attached image:

Attachment: gator.jpg
This has been downloaded 79 time(s).

	21-09-2003 20:39									#197
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by geeslaka Assuming that Gator uses ActiveX, is there any way that the makers of the ad could set a delay before the ad actually appears? That would be an irritating way of disguising where the ad actually comes from.

I don't think so. The script has to start running to set the delay. So as long as you keep the scripts out, you have no problems.

	22-09-2003 02:53									#198
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

And the hunt for the offending advertiser continues ...

	22-09-2003 08:31									#199
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

You can try changing between regular and special styles. If you don't get it using a regular style, the offender is from a popup ad.

	22-09-2003 09:08									#200
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

I just got gator going from a demo game private forum to the main forum index.

dictionary.com is open in the back ground, but hasn't been touched for several hours.

	22-09-2003 13:59									#201
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

The demogamers use too many long words?

	22-09-2003 21:06									#202
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Got the Gator "open on task bar" edition. My Windows NT Task Manager listed it ("Running" -- ominously)
as follows:

http://webpdp.gator.com/v3/webpdp_v...ic=HIC_RydiumNT - Microsoft Internet Explorer

Since I'm in a corporate environment (thus Win NT, MSIE, and no popup blockers) for virtually all my Poly time, I'm stuck with these annoyances. I appreciate any efforts Dan can muster to minimize or endit re Gator, but I consider it to be the price of T1 speed and no out-of-pocket Web access cost.

Which is why I haven't complained before.

	25-09-2003 04:59									#203
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Another screenshot with our dear companion - Gator.

By the way people, stay clear of Gator and under no circumstances click Yes. You won't be able to get rid of Gator afterwards.

Attachment: gator 3.jpg
This has been downloaded 136 time(s).

	25-09-2003 23:52									#204
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

I've gotten Gator twice today.

Dan please indicate if there is any information that I could provide that you can use in your quest to rid Apolyton of the evil Gator ad.

Asmodean

	26-09-2003 19:17									#205
	Tired of ads?

I haven't seen a Gator message at work for quite some time now. Odd...

	26-09-2003 20:28									#206
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

Well Gator is still alive and well ... I just go bit by it again. Time to clean up my system again.

	26-09-2003 20:32									#207
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Do you have trouble saying no?

	26-09-2003 20:55									#208
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

He may have

But Gator writes to the registry, whether you say yes or no. It doesn't install itself, but it writes to your registry.

I got it twice yesterday, and once so far today

Asmodean

Last edited by Asmodean on 26-09-2003 at 23:43

	26-09-2003 21:56									#209
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Got one this morning...

	26-09-2003 22:24									#210
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Just got one.