19-08-2003 22:33									#1
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Yesterday, at not even 7 o'clock (I get a bus around 6:55), I was waiting for a bus.

It comes from across a dual carriageway. The road that bi-sects this carriageway has two lanes before it in order for those who want to turn right not to get in the way for those going straight on. Picture it?

Right..well sometimes you get drivers in the right hand lane going straight on. This happened yesterday morning.

However, the road then merges into one lane (once the cars have gone over said dual carriageway). Yesterday morning, I witnessed two cars racing in order to be the first in this single lane road. Even 200 yards down the road, they were side-by-side, on a single lane main road.

One came *this* close to smashing into a car half on the pavement about 10 yards from where I was stood. Since I was watching this unravel, I was ready to jump out of the way.

Their race for "first place" carried up the road. I would say there was a 50% chance of collision.

And you know what..if they crashed..I wouldn't have used my mobile to phone 999. I would have waited for my bus. **** them. **** the idiots in this world. Those two drivers could perish in their self-made car crash for all I car.

(Luckily for it being so early, no car was coming the other way).

Motorists who drive too fasts.

	19-08-2003 23:01									#2
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Are they too fast or are you too slow.

And I don't mean this in the speed sense.

	20-08-2003 00:47									#3
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It would be nice if more stupid drivers were 'eliminated from the roads'...makes the roads far safer for everyone else

	20-08-2003 02:44									#4
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Bus drivers are worse. One threatened to throw me through a window, simply because I suggested I was sleeping with his wife (I noticed the ring of white skin on his ring finger).

	20-08-2003 02:55									#5
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There should be a lot more Darwin awards.

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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's And you know what..if they crashed..I wouldn't have used my mobile to phone 999. I would have waited for my bus. **** them. **** the idiots in this world.

Isn't that illegal, at least in the US? Not to offer aid when you see someone dying/injured?

	20-08-2003 03:02									#7
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I think it isn't illegal. People have triied to make it so, but I think they haven't succeeded. The closest things are the Good Samaritan laws, where if you sincerely try to help someone out, you can't be prosecuted.

Anyway, it's a massive violation of liberties to MAKE you offer aid to a person.

	20-08-2003 03:06									#8
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I totally agree, Skywalker. Nevertheless, I can't stop thinking it is illegal. Who knows..

	20-08-2003 03:09									#9
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It would be very antisocial and the person would have to be pretty deficient in character...sound like anyone we know?

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HEY!!!! It wasn't me who left that guy bleeding on the sidewalk... it was that other guy

	20-08-2003 03:10									#11
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Legally though...if the person is overtaking then the person on the left shouldn't make it difficult for him to complete his manoevre, on the other hand, if the overtaker didn't have sufficient distance to perform his manoevre...depends on circumstances who was in the wrong...both really...

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Hint: I wasn't referring to you skywalker

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Oh ok

*wipes brow* they haven't caught me yet

	20-08-2003 07:23									#14
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Driving this afternoon to work, there's this damned irritating intersection were people turning right (curved right, not 90 degree turn) onto the street I'm driving CONSTANTLY ignore the fact that there is oncoming traffic and that they themselves must YIELD to that traffic, not continue to drive along in the generous and almost-big-enough-for-a-vehicle shoulder then swing out into the traffic lane to make the turn into the parking lot. All those near-misses just to get to Little Flower Catholic Church right there at that intersection.

Today, however, it was an elderly man who wasn't going to church. He continued to disregard traffic around him, crossing lanes as he saw fit, puttering along below the speedlimit then without warning accelerate, until I lost sight of him two or three minutes later. If I had been a later closer to him I would have reported this one to the police (licence plate number/make of vehicle). Has was a danger to everyone around him. Nearly rammed into the people two cars ahead of me when he charged through that right-turn.

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	20-08-2003 07:31									#15
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So I'm driving by and I see an injured person? Of course I go over to him! You never know if he might have something in his pockets worth stealing.

(that's a joke)

	20-08-2003 19:48									#16
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I'd rather seen one of those two injured and learn a lesson than injure some other innocent.

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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison It would be very antisocial and the person would have to be pretty deficient in character...sound like anyone we know?

How's the glass house, Aspergers?

	20-08-2003 22:21									#18
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Ugh, I HATE people.

Do you realize how many of our (American) traffic problems could be solved or greatly lightened if people properly understood and abided by the two-lane system?

It goes like this: the left lane is for traffic that is moving faster than traffic in the right lane, REGARDLESS of the speed limit. If you are in the left lane, you should be actively passing the cars in the right lane -- not going the same speed or letting them pass you.

Seriously, MANY of our traffic problems would be solved because of this, particularly on the interstates and highways between cities. I see so many people driving the speed limit in the left lane with a dozen cars backed up behind them. Sure, those dozen cars may want to break the law and speed, but the self-righteous (or ignorant) few prevent that from happening and therefore build up more immediate traffic. Not to mention road-rage: tailgating may not be nice nor is it appropriate, but so much of it could be avoided by being curteous and DRIVING IN THE PROPER LANE.

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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's How's the glass house, Aspergers?

I've heard that gag before, and the funny thing is, I don't even fit the symptoms of that disorder

	21-08-2003 01:18									#20
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Don't you....

quote: 1) impairment in social interaction and communication 2) repetitive or obsessive behaviors 3) preoccupation with particular subjects or interests 4) good (sometimes superior) grammar and vocabulary 5) normal cognitive development 6) normal or above average intelligence

1) tick
2) tick
3) tick
4) tick
5) tick
6) oh blast, sorry, I'm wrong.

	21-08-2003 01:32									#21
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Name how I fit 1,2 or 3. 4, 5 and 6 I can go with, but they tend to go with above average intelligence. Therefore my diagnosis, Dr Spink, is that I possess above average intelligence

	21-08-2003 01:42									#22
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LOL...I thought this thread was about drivers (the software) not drivers (the people behind wheels).

I waltzed happily in, ready to offer Stew some computing assistance.

But now that I'm here: I probably would have got on the bus too. Some people are just too stupid to save.

Asmodean

	21-08-2003 06:49									#23
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quote: Originally posted by rev Ugh, I HATE people. Do you realize how many of our (American) traffic problems could be solved or greatly lightened if people properly understood and abided by the two-lane system? It goes like this: the left lane is for traffic that is moving faster than traffic in the right lane, REGARDLESS of the speed limit. If you are in the left lane, you should be actively passing the cars in the right lane -- not going the same speed or letting them pass you. Seriously, MANY of our traffic problems would be solved because of this, particularly on the interstates and highways between cities. I see so many people driving the speed limit in the left lane with a dozen cars backed up behind them. Sure, those dozen cars may want to break the law and speed, but the self-righteous (or ignorant) few prevent that from happening and therefore build up more immediate traffic. Not to mention road-rage: tailgating may not be nice nor is it appropriate, but so much of it could be avoided by being curteous and DRIVING IN THE PROPER LANE.

You really shouldn't be driving long term in the left lane. That lane is the passing lane- use it to get past the slow person ahead of you, then move back into the right.

	21-08-2003 12:59									#24
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Which is nevertheless ompossible if some stupid ******* is driving too slow in the left lane.

Asmodean

	21-08-2003 22:19									#25
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quote: Name how I fit 1,2 or 3.

Of course you are completely normal socially Rich...

	22-08-2003 00:00									#26
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you Brits don't know **** about driving anyways... driving on the left... PFFFFFT...

	22-08-2003 00:09									#27
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Yup. Lots of bad drivers out there... but then sometimes it's just stupid mistakes by otherwise good drivers.


Anywhoo, with regards to it being illegal not to help... it varies somewhat. The Good Semaritan Laws have not gotten beyond the local leve... However, just as it is illegal to leave the scene of an accident as one of the "participants" I believe it is also illegal to leave the scene of an accident as an eyewitness... for insurance reasons. At least, I think that's the way it is in NJ...

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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Of course you are completely normal socially Rich...

Well funny how everyone but you would testify to my social abilities, but few to yours

	22-08-2003 00:23									#29
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In France, "non assistance à personne en danger" (no help given to a jeopardized person) is a serious offense which can lead to jail in its worst manifestations. I.e, if you see somebody apparently dying, or if you're witnessing an attack, you're supposed to at least call the emergency services.

This charge is difficult to prove however, and only the best documented charges have serious consequences for the author.

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"Anyone driving slower than you is an idiot"
"Anyone driving faster than you is a maniac"