20-08-2003 22:43									#1
	Should we change production at Apolyton Prime? Full PM-box? Change here!

Given that our negotiations with PEACE have finally come to fruition, we have attained both Industrial Base and Industrial Economics. As you all surely know, this means we now have the ability to use synthmetal armour, opening up a plethora of new units to us (more specifically, 1-2-1, 2-2-1, 1-2-2, and 2-2-2, whatever you prefer to call them). While most of these are expensive and of limited use to us, the synthmetal sentinals can be useful. Apolyton Prime is currently building a scout patrol, which will be done in either 1 or 2 turns (I can't precisely remember). Do we want to change production to a synthmetal sentinal, which will prototype the armour for us and will be finished in 6 turns?

	20-08-2003 23:41									#2
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I'd go yes, as it seems like a good idea, but not at the expense of too much. If it looks easily done, as this does to me, go for it

	21-08-2003 01:06									#3
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One question. What's the big advantage of building a 1-2-1 when you can build a 1-2-2 at the same cost? It seems many people don't know this little but handy fact.

	21-08-2003 01:55									#4
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Oh, you can? I only knew about the 2-1-1 and 2-1-2 being the same cost.

I assume that everyone here would have voted for that had they known... if you don't, then please report to the nearest maintenance lab so we can remove those pesky Unimatrix Zero chips.

	21-08-2003 02:17									#5
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Ah yes, though I first intended to vote "yes", I chose for "no" after some consideration. Why? We'll be getting crawlers next turn, and since we should be trying to finish our SP asap, I vote we now build a cheap scout patrol in Poly Prime and then immediately switch to a crawler. Or I would even dare suggest that Zetaris builds its own garrison and that we immediately switch towards a crawler in Poly Prime.

	21-08-2003 07:00									#6
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Ah yes, it's so easy to forget these things when they're not staring you in the face.

This poll was made under the assumption that we still wanted to get AP to build the garrison for Zetaris. Anybody who wishes to change this can express that opinion here, as our Prime Function just did.

	21-08-2003 13:43									#7
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Crawler

Everywhere. Forget Zetaris' garrison, we need crawlers

I propose having a standard base facilities build of:

• former
  
• garrison
  
• CP (or Rec Commons)
  
• crawler
  
• rec commons
  
• former
  
• crawler
  

2 formers, 2 crawlers and a rec commons per base, the CP is if it grows too fast (not under FM ). I think every base should have at least 2 crawlers, and more as we progress (crawling farm/condensers) Then we can build and work boreholes, so we get all the food we need from crawlers (4 per turn min each) and hoards of energy and mins from boreholes.

Let us bask in the glory of Method's old plan... "The Swiss Cheese Project"

	21-08-2003 17:15									#8
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Finish the scout, then crawlers. Everywhere.

'Nuff said really.

C

	21-08-2003 17:23									#9
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Do we need another poll, asking whether to build a 1-2-2, 1-1-1 or crawler right now?

Last edited by Maniac on 21-08-2003 at 17:50

	21-08-2003 17:43									#10
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The only problem with a 1-2-2 is the increased expence in upgrading compared to a 1-2-1. If we're ever tempted to upgrade (and we're just using it as a garrison) then a 1-2-1 might be the better choice.

Course if we can build a crawler before the 1-1-1 completes then we should methinks.

C

M

Last edited by Maniac on 21-08-2003 at 17:51

	21-08-2003 18:38									#11
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Maniac? Is that your editing I see before me?

It costs the same for a 1-2-2 as a 1-2-1? I thought synthmetal rovers were expensive?

	22-08-2003 11:15									#12
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Alright... my understanding of the positions thus far is...

Mani Alpha-3: Crawler
Chaunk... something: Scout patrol
Drogue Beta-8: Crawler
Corelli Omega-9: Crawler

Correct me if I'm wrong... but I believe that means we switch production to crawler.

	22-08-2003 17:38									#13
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I'm saying crawler if we have the tech, scout patrol otherwise.

	22-08-2003 19:23									#14
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For the record, costs (running Planned. Wealth, giving +2 Industry) are:

Scout chassis:

1-1-1 is 8
1-2-1 is 16
2-1-1 is 16
2-2-1 is 24

Rover chassis

1-1-2 is 16
1-2-2 is 16
2-1-2 is 16
2-2-2 is 32

Crawler:

0-1-1 is 24

G.

	23-08-2003 08:16									#15
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Googlie: Thank you very much
Chaunk: We will have the tech. It's done next turn.

So, a crawler then.

	23-08-2003 11:24									#16
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quote: Chaunk: We will have the tech. It's done next turn

Sorry, still can't open turns to check....

C

	23-08-2003 11:37									#17
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And we have the tech. Hoorah!

	23-08-2003 23:04									#18
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Just asking: should I change any other production besides Poly Prime to crawlers?

	24-08-2003 05:10									#19
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I'll poll on it.

	27-08-2003 01:41									#20
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Yes.