21-08-2003 08:00									#1
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Ten questions...

Score 20 points per YES, 10 per MAYBE, 0 per NO

Personal materialism:
1. Can money can buy happiness?
2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic?
3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife)
4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation?
5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one?

Social materialism:
6. Does economic progress lead to social progress?
7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs?
8. Should Church and State be seperate?
9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space?
10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city?

And one unscored question:
How has CIV influenced your attitudes on the above issues?

use the Grid to find out where ya are.

I score 20 on Personal Materialism, 80 on Social Materialism.

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Personal 10 Social 80

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Oh! I misread one of the questions.

20 on Personal, 30 on Social.

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50 personal, 90 social

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1. Can money can buy happiness?
YES
2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic?
NO
3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife)
YES
4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation?
NO
5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one?
MAYBE

Social materialism:
6. Does economic progress lead to social progress?
MAYBE
7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs?
NO
8. Should Church and State be seperate?
YES
9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space?
YES
10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city?
YES

And one unscored question:
How has CIV influenced your attitudes on the above issues?
NO

50 on Economic
70 on Social

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Personal materialism:
1. Can money can buy happiness?
no -> 0
2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic?
yes -> 20
3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife)
maybe -> 10
4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation?
maybe -> 10
5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one?
no -> 0

Social materialism:
6. Does economic progress lead to social progress?
no -> 0
7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs?
maybe -> 10
8. Should Church and State be seperate?
yes -> 20
9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space?
yes -> 20
10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city?
no -> 0

personal -> 40
social -> 50

	21-08-2003 09:19									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Personal materialism: 1. Can money can buy happiness? NO 2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic? MAYBE 3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife) NO 4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation? MAYBE 5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one? NO total: 20 Social materialism: 6. Does economic progress lead to social progress? NO 7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs? MAYBE 8. Should Church and State be seperate? YES 9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space? YES 10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city? YES total: 70 so that is 20 for personal materialism and 70 for social materialism.

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Personal materialism:
1. Can money can buy happiness?

Maybe

2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic?

No

3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife)

Maybe

4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation?

Hmm...how much of each? Maybe

5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one?

Yes

50 points

Social materialism:
6. Does economic progress lead to social progress?

Yes

7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs?

Of course

8. Should Church and State be seperate?

Yes

9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space?

If we need to and can, yes

10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city?

Architects plan, engineers do

80 points

No on the last question

	21-08-2003 10:24									#10
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City planners plan cities. Architects design buildings. Engineers also do a lot of design, but it really depends on what kind of engineer we are talking about.

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Wohoo I'm a fundamentalist headin toward utopia: 20/40

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Ten questions...

Score 20 points per YES, 10 per MAYBE, 0 per NO

Personal materialism: Total 60
1. Can money can buy happiness?
Sure as **** can.

2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic?
Sometime, in its most basic form it is utilitarian but for everyday purposes...

3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife)
We croak and that's all she wrote.

4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation?
Maybe, it depends of the extact trade off.

5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one?

No, the opposite if something is old enough.

Social materialism: Total 90
6. Does economic progress lead to social progress?
Eventually it does. There is a delayed reaction though.

7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs?
In many but not all cases (count that as maybe).

8. Should Church and State be seperate?
Yes.

9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space?
Yep.

10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city?
Depends on the person, his background, the over all goal I have with the city.

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Personal materialism:
1. Can money can buy happiness?

Maybe - 10

2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic?

Yes - 20

3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife)

No - 0

4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation?

No - 0

5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one?

No - 0

Social materialism:
6. Does economic progress lead to social progress?

Maybe - 10

7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs?

Yes - 20

8. Should Church and State be seperate?

Yes - 20

9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space?

Yes - 20

10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city?

No - 0

Personal materialism: 30
Social materialism: 70

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	21-08-2003 20:38									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Ten questions... Score 20 points per YES, 10 per MAYBE, 0 per NO Personal materialism: 1. Can money can buy happiness? 2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic? 3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife) 4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation? 5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one? Social materialism: 6. Does economic progress lead to social progress? 7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs? 8. Should Church and State be seperate? 9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space? 10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city?

No, no, no, maybe, no: 10
No, yes, maybe, maybe, maybe: 50
I'm a...quasi-fundamentalist. Whatever that means.

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Personal materialism: 50
Social materialism: 60

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1. Can money can buy happiness? Maybe
2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic? No
3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife) Yes
4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation? Maybe
5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one? No

6. Does economic progress lead to social progress? Maybe
7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs? Yes
8. Should Church and State be seperate? Yes
9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space? Yes
10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city? No

And one unscored question:
How has CIV influenced your attitudes on the above issues?
No or rather, very little influence. I may be more prone to settle in the unsettled areas, but that's about it.

My score: 40 personal, 70 social

	21-08-2003 21:01									#18
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Maybe
Maybe
Yes
Maybe
No

Maybe
Maybe
Yes
Maybe
Maybe

Personal: 50
Social: 60

Almost all can be true or false depending on the people involved (hence many maybes)

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Personal materialism:
1. Can money can buy happiness?
Up to a point. A copy of Civ beats none, but what am I going to do with 1,000 copies?

2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic?
No

3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife)
Yes

4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation?
Can't I pick shorter working hours?

5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one?
First of all, two things cannot be identical. Secondly, even if I assume it is possible, the old thing would not be the identical to the new thing anyway due to weathering, wear and tear, etc.


Social materialism:
6. Does economic progress lead to social progress?
After awhile

7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs?
Why? What makes humans superior?

8. Should Church and State be seperate?
Yes.

9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space?
Yes.

10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city?
Neither. I prefer an urban planner.

And one unscored question:
How has CIV influenced your attitudes on the above issues?
Not a thing.

Score: Due to errors in the questions, scores cannot be tabulated.

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Personal:
maybe yes yes maybe no
60

Social:
maybe yes yes yes maybe
80

quote: 7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs? Why? What makes humans superior?

The fact that we're stronger. In inter-species relationships, since no other logical code of law exists, mght makes right.

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Personal: 10
Social: 30 - 50

Not sure about these two questions... could someone tell me what they mean?


7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs?

8. Should Church and State be seperate?




Btw, what's with the picture in the first post?

	21-08-2003 21:59									#22
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ADG,

Min grove, hurtige oversættelse til vort modersmål lyder 7) "Skal andre livsformer være underordnet menneskets behov" og 8) "Bør kirke og stat være adskilt".

	21-08-2003 22:08									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Ten questions... Score 20 points per YES, 10 per MAYBE, 0 per NO Personal materialism: 1. Can money can buy happiness? 2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic? 3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife) 4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation? 5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one? Social materialism: 6. Does economic progress lead to social progress? 7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs? 8. Should Church and State be seperate? 9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space? 10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city? And one unscored question: How has CIV influenced your attitudes on the above issues? use the Grid to find out where ya are. I score 20 on Personal Materialism, 80 on Social Materialism.

1. In a capitalist society... yes... although I don't have the resources to prove it.
2. Depends on climate.
3. Life as we know it ends at death.
4. Depends on many factors.
5. Depends on item.
6. Depends... during the 80's the US grew in terms of GDP, but regressed in terms of poverty, educaction, and social progress. The super-rich's accomplishments don't trickle down.
7. IMO, humans should strive to not exploit or destroy life... but not at the expense of our own lives.
8. Yes... but only if you value freedom.
9. Eventually, our goal should be to expand beyond our world, but we should only colonize the oceans if it is necessary.
10. I prefer a city planner.

Civ Question: Consciously, not at all.

Too many generalized questions for my tastes.

	21-08-2003 22:08									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Personal materialism: 1. Can money can buy happiness? No 2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic? No 3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife) No 4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation? Maybe 5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one? No Social materialism: 6. Does economic progress lead to social progress? Maybe 7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs? Maybe 8. Should Church and State be seperate? Yes 9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space? Maybe 10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city? Yes

So 10 Personal and 70 Social
Somehow Utopian

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Takker for oversættelsen

7) Regnede nok med at det var det, det betød men var ikke sikker
8) Er kirke og stat ikke to vidt forskellige ting, eller er det mig som misser noget her?

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8) Er kirke og stat ikke to vidt forskellige ting, eller er det mig som misser noget her?

I de fleste civiliserede lande. Men med "vores" folkekirke integreret i staten er situationen jo en ganske anden her til lands.

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Did you guys just invent the danithreadi ?

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Personal materialism:
YES 1. Can money can buy happiness?
NO 2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic?
MAYBE 3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife)
MAYBE 4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation?
YES 5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one?

Social materialism:
YES 6. Does economic progress lead to social progress?
YES 7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs?
YES 8. Should Church and State be seperate?
YES 9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space?
YES 10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city?[/quote]

Personal- 60
Social- 100

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