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Urban Ranger is offline Urban Ranger
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MS's secret plan against the Blaster worm: Linux Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

This is priceless for the MS fanboys out there.

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HAVING BATTENED DOWN the hatches to fight off Blaster worm, Microsoft Friday decided to bite the bullet and do someting radical about it. There was only one thing left to do: call for Linux!

The software Monopolist, which has recognised the Open Source Linus as the greatest threat to it monopoly, took the successful step of changing its DNS so that requests for Microsoft.com were not resolved by its own network, running its own besieged software.

Rather, users' attempts to get to microsoft.com were switched to the Akamai's servers, which, as we noted before, runs Linux.


Microsoft develops cunning strategy to beat Blaster worm

Lets see what they have to say about this.

MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
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Slow news day there, or you just miss Asher?

St Leo is offline St Leo
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Unfortunately, this is just a temporary service from Akamai rather than a permanent switch. At least until the next DDOS...:P

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Erm... yes and no. See here.

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Akamai provides an internet-wide caching system, which can act as a symmetric defence to distributed denial of service attacks. Just as a denial of service attack funnels traffic from many different points to a single destination, Akamai's DNS servers multiplex requests for a specific hostname to the nearest point to each attacking machine in its global caching system, diminishing the effect of the attack by dividing the inbound requests amongst its many servers, and limiting the amount of DDoS traffic by localising the distance between attacker and target. Akamai presents a more challenging target for a DDoS than any single network, and would seem to be the best practical step where a distributed denial of service is directed at a hostname that the target organisation cannot reasonably take offline.


And, of course, they run Linux. Behind them, windowsupdate.com still runs on Windows. What got everybody confused was this:

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When we request www.microsoft.com the DNS directs us to a server operated by Akamai.


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Akamai’s http caching servers run Linux, and so we report Linux as the operating system. However Akamai also forwards the http Server: header from the original server as part of the cached content, and so we report “Microsoft-IIS/6.0” as the web server.

Asher is offline Asher
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Oh my God, UR, you aren't smart enough to think "Why is Microsoft IIS 6.0 running on Linux??? Why is the domain provider listed as Akamai???"



This truly is priceless, it shows just how much you're using your grip.

And again, you need to post in the DirectX thread: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=94467

I hate it after every time I completely smash your arguments you disappear and ignore the thread. Be a man.

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Yeah, really that is a bit much, I'm going to have to side with Asher on this one .

I'm in a "lets work together" mood today, as such I want Microsoft Linux!!!

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"Microsoft Linux" ?

Sir Ralph is offline Sir Ralph
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That's how we call Red Hat.

Urban Ranger is offline Urban Ranger
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Oh my God, UR, you aren't smart enough to think "Why is Microsoft IIS 6.0 running on Linux??? Why is the domain provider listed as Akamai???"


It helps if you read the article instead of just mouthing off.

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Excuse me? Did you read the article?

Akamai is the only network of its kind, and it happens to use Linux as the load distributer, and MS happens to be a client to prevent DDOS attacks on their servers.

Posting a thread about it called "MS's(sic) secret plan against the Blaster worm: Linux" is not only silly and childish, but fundamentally stupid.

And for christsake, stop ignoring the DirectX thread because you got your ass handed to you. Be a man and confess your ignorance, rather than running away with your tail between your legs.

Something's up with you recently, you're usually wrong quite a bit, but this has been a couple weeks straight and many topics for you.

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Microsoft will stagnate any industry it tries to touch. OSes, browsers, etc...it'd be a horror of the largest scale for it to release "Microsoft Linux"

MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
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Posting a thread about it called "MS's(sic) secret plan against the Blaster worm: Linux" is not only silly and childish, but fundamentally stupid.


Aren't all these MS vs Linux threads?

for that matter, isn't at least half the rest of the stuff on the OT?

Asher is offline Asher
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Hmm.
So the OS, video game, cell phone, etc. markets are all stagnated?

The word you're looking for is "matured" -- companies like Microsoft can give direction to the lowly open source geeks who try to emulate (and fail) their software.

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So the OS, video game, cell phone, etc. markets are all stagnated?

Bah. I was using that as an "everyone should know this" cheap phrase, you shouldn't've tried to corner me on it.

Besides, the reality is, having 90% of a market be one thing is not good for the market.

Asher is offline Asher
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Unless you want affordable, consistent, and a wide selection of software.

Fragmented OSes suck. If you actually think about it, the whole development to support to user experience angles, you'd see why.

It'd be like instead of having one standard of lane sizes, you'd have 5-6 competing ones. And your car would need to be far more complex and have to make concessions to be able to fit on more than one.

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Unless you want affordable, consistent, and a wide selection of software.

Don't forget proprietary. M$ changes the file formats every so often to make sure only their products can read the files.

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Unless you want affordable, consistent, and a wide selection of software.

Don't forget proprietary. M$ changes the file formats every so often to make sure only their products can read the files.

Well they don't seem to be doing a very good job, OpenOffice and Corel Office has been able to read the files forever, and moving the document format to XML in Office 11 with a publically defined XLS for how to read the file isn't going to help that either.

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Successful or not, they have changed the formats several times. Given that XP requires 256MB of RAM, I doubt it was to decrease file size.

MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
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I don't know how in hell they got it installed, but I just fixed a couple of non-OS problems on my brother in law's laptop, which is running XP Pro on 64

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Well, I can't find the thread I thought I saw that in, so I could be wrong. Let's wait for Asher to show up and correct me.

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64mb's the minimum for winxp. that just means it'll run, just not well.

and did someone mention microsoft linux?

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Well, I can't find the thread I thought I saw that in, so I could be wrong. Let's wait for Asher to show up and correct me.

Would it be too much to ask the Linux people to kindly stop talking about things they've no clue about.

Getting on my nerves.

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and did someone mention microsoft linux?


I'm sure that site has been up forever, but it is funny, especially the quotes:

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that site's hilarious

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and did someone mention microsoft linux?


I guess this is MS's attempt to hijack and then kill linux? That's what they did to several other programing languages and OSs.

Edit: I just noticed it was a joke.

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Can't tell if you're joking, but the site is a joke.

Edit:

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that's what i love about that site. all the microsoft links really work.

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Heh, there's a userfriendly.org reference on that site.

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You guys really have no idea.

Muhahahahahaha

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