25-08-2003 02:50									#1
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How come there is no interest in the space program? Mars?


It seems like no one is interested in the space program anymore-has its “novelty” warn off among other events in resent times?

Some people say the current world events are more important.......... does fighting a war in Iraq and Afghanistan have any more or less relevance to your life, YOU PERSONALLY then the space program? Except that the space program is responsible for alot of modern innovations you use lol.

What about the big dream to go to mars? It seems to have dissapeared!

Would you pay 1% more in taxes per year if it guaranteed an American (international space efforts just don’t work lol-you brits, canadians and ausies and Israeli's can come along if you want ) colony on the moon in 5 years, a man on mars in 10, and a colony on mars in 15?

	25-08-2003 02:55									#2
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Who wants to live there anyway?

But generally I´m for a space program (and yes also for international cooperation

	25-08-2003 02:56									#3
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I'd go live there!

History in the making, baby!

	25-08-2003 02:57									#4
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Britain is the greatest colonial nation in the world.

Mars will be ours, and our intergalactic navy WILL rulle the universe!

Stand aside Darth Vador, the BRITISH ARE COMEING, AND WE BOUGHT OUR FLAG WITH US!!!

	25-08-2003 02:58									#5
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Yeah, but by the time you finish building one of your Man'O'War's, Ironclad spaceships will have rendered them obsolete

	25-08-2003 03:00									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel I'd go live there! History in the making, baby!

I don´t go to mars before the warp drive is invented

	25-08-2003 03:02									#7
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I think there is great interest at least among Scientists.

But there is no money available. If NASA would get a litle more funding thins would look diferent I think.
Maybe the US-Military should just get some Bilions less funding (especially the Branch which developes new TacNukes), which will then be spent for the NASA

But isn´t there still th Mars-Program which should start in 2016?
Or was ist already canceled?

As for the General Public I think it is just poor PR.
And of course the Fact that it will be still years from now on till it will be possible for the first Mars Mission to start.
I think if the Mars Mission is running, and Man sets its first Foot on martian soil, people will sit fascinated at their TV-Sets as they had done it when Eagle landed

	25-08-2003 03:02									#8
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because there is no purpose to a space program. we have to spend our resources carefully. this at least as far as space travel beyond any earth orbit is concerned. moon and mars missions are truly a waste of resources.

	25-08-2003 03:03									#9
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Mining NEA's is cooler.

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quote: Originally posted by skywalker Yeah, but by the time you finish building one of your Man'O'War's, Ironclad spaceships will have rendered them obsolete

Ha! we laugh at your silly ironclads, we have the DREADNAUGHT!!!

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Not unless it's added in Conquests

	25-08-2003 04:56									#12
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker Yeah, but by the time you finish building one of your Man'O'War's, Ironclad spaceships will have rendered them obsolete

	25-08-2003 04:57									#13
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I'd like to live on Mars... then I could shove people out of airlocks...

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quote: Originally posted by Sava I'd like to live on Mars... then I could shove people out of airlocks...

Throwing commies out of airlocks...ala Fez???

Sava

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I'd throw dopes out of airlocks... dopes of all creeds and colors, all races and religions, and all political beliefs... I'm an equal opprotunity air lock thrower out of guy... uhmm... yeah...

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quote: Mars will be ours, and our intergalactic navy WILL rulle the universe! Stand aside Darth Vador, the BRITISH ARE COMEING, AND WE BOUGHT OUR FLAG WITH US!!!

Space programme is the most important thing for humanity since we walked out of Africa imo. The problem is that interest in it was down to novelty, which has worn off, and competition with the Soviets, which is non-existent. Theres nothing I'd like better than for us to walk on the Moon for the first time in a third of a century, but the idiotic masses and the economists just dont care

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Sava, you really do give the best sig material!

	25-08-2003 05:09									#18
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Where has our favorite little cracked out Equadorian gone to? I miss Fez and that brain damaged Finn Ottok.

	25-08-2003 05:10									#19
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Cost Effectiveness. Once corporate America figures out how to exploit the resouces...we will go and we will go fast. Sad, but true.

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quote: Originally posted by PLATO Sava, you really do give the best sig material!

heheh i try...




really I do...

	25-08-2003 09:36									#21
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Plus the current President couldn't care less about space. I saw that written somewhere.
The Only President that care about space was L. Johnson. Even Kennedy did not care, he just wanted to beat the Russian.

	25-08-2003 09:52									#22
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I'll be the head of the terraforming department. When I heard that Humans are poisoned by too much CO2 my heart dropped, I guess we will have to start importing nitrogen from Saturn's moon Titan to get the air pressure up without the planet on fire from too much oxygen.

Lets go to Mars!

	25-08-2003 11:15									#23
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I think the public shows little enthusiasm because it believes that agencies like NASA simply are not going to do any of the bold exciting manned space activities that they had anticipated would have already begun long ago. If there was a real announcement of something like a manned visit to mars (with no possibility of cancellation) expression of excitment in the space program would show a huge spike. Even a manned mission to the moon would probably elicit such renewed enthusiasm. Unmanned probes and low orbital manned flight that goes nowhere interest the public a little due to an innate attraction to space activites, but the public still can't help but feel dissappointed by such anti climatic activities after the huge expectations raised by the Apollo programs.

	25-08-2003 12:03									#24
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There's no interest because there's no money to be made.

	25-08-2003 12:43									#25
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We have yet to discover that huge Elerium-115 (tm) cache the aliens were storing on Mars.

	25-08-2003 13:33									#26
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Theres a fair amount of interest here in the UK at the moment as a UK made probe (Beagle 2) is on its way on the mars express and is set the land on christmas day. I know what Im going to be watching. 5 Missions are currently on their way to mars, so even if the public is not interested then the space agencys are still making the logical steps in advancement.

Geronimo, I dont see a great deal of point announcing a mission when we are still light years away from the tech. Public interest would spike but then would drain away again when nothing happened. Far better to announce it when we have some chance of acheiving it. We need to move one step at a time, and whilst that is slow, and it doesnt seem like a lot is happening, its got to be done this way.

And no-one forget, wednesday night, closest in 60,000 years. The last humans to see such a sight were the cavemen.

	25-08-2003 13:35									#27
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there will be no more world wars.

there will be Mars wars instead.

	25-08-2003 13:46									#28
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Yes, Mars Attacks!

Who says the Earth will come out ahead?

That's the real reason for the reluctance, rather robust native inhabitants.

	25-08-2003 13:50									#29
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native aggressiveness is very high (8). we'll have to send troops led by conquistadors before sending out colonists. or just build trade posts, but then there's no valuable resources out there.

	25-08-2003 14:50									#30
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Why would anyone want to go and live on a cold barren rock with no atmosphere --- wait... the British would fit right it... .

Seriously though, what would be the point?

I agree that space flight is tremendously exciting, but not the sort of space flight which is within our solar system. We need to invent travel 'between the stars' before it becomes interesting, and that is a long way off. Inter-solar travel is only interesting for things like mining and very very long term teraforming.

Now, for the amount of money we would spend on a Mars landing, wouldn't we be better trying to figure out how the universe works? There are so many interesting, exciting possibilities in particle physics just round the corner!

Do you know for example, that the new collider being built at Geneva may possibly find extra space dimensions? Wouldn't that be 'WoW!' time?

And this sort of collider costs less to build than a single day of fighting in Iraq!

If we want to do anything meaningful in space we need to first study physics a bit better. Only then will we get our 'hyperdrives' that will take us to the stars.