26-08-2003 23:40									#31
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That's old news... since then, it seems like Duce is back in the fold and is shutting his mouth and no longer making contract demands.

But what's really funny was the response from the Bears GM in regards to Duce. He claimed we didn't need him, and he wouldn't be an upgrade for the Bears.



I want some of what he's smoking...

Again... just more proof that he is setting up the coach to lose.

	26-08-2003 23:45									#32
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You are right, you have to wonder how much of this is like the movie, "Major League", peter principle involved, set up to fail.

	26-08-2003 23:51									#33
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The biggest buzz about the Bears is a war of words in the media between da coach and David Terrell...

"at the end of the day" Kordell is just here to lose...

Hopefully, Jauron and Shoop will be sent packing after this year.

	26-08-2003 23:52									#34
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So you're saying I'm better off trying to be a Jaguars fan this year?

	26-08-2003 23:56									#35
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oooh that's a tough one... Jaguars or Bears... ick... can't you root for the Bucs?

	26-08-2003 23:59									#36
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Screw the jagoffs and bank one, Pack attack!

	27-08-2003 00:01									#37
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support the fudge Packers while you can... once Favre retires... it's going to be a green suck fest for a long time...

	27-08-2003 00:02									#38
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Nope, we are already eyeing up Grossman, by then he will be ripe for the picking since the Bears woudn't know talent if it came up and bit them in the tailpad.

	27-08-2003 00:04									#39
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by then the Bears will have management that is good.

	27-08-2003 00:06									#40
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Lets hope so, we here in Packerland always like a good game.

	27-08-2003 00:13									#41
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just as long as the Viking suck, right?

	27-08-2003 00:16									#42
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I would even put on a Bears uniform to a Vikes Game, I can't stand those bastards. YUK!

	27-08-2003 00:34									#43
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GO PACK GO

	27-08-2003 00:36									#44
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I find that very disturbing.

	27-08-2003 00:38									#45
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I find it interesting that only moronic Packer fans would ever consider wearing such a stupid and silly looking hat

	27-08-2003 00:38									#46
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You're just jealous.

	27-08-2003 00:40									#47
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Holy Sh!t, those are your guns, please get that off before somebody else sees.

	27-08-2003 00:51									#48
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The real sad thing is in the real old days, that shirt would have said and whoever plays the Bears. But I guess you have to be good before that happens again.

	27-08-2003 00:53									#49
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Hey! Bears won a SuperBowl, the Vikes, oh yea, 0-4 Baby, they really suck!

	27-08-2003 00:55									#50
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The memories of 85 fade quickly. Heck I was on my honeymoon during their playoff run that year. My daughter is now in highschool.

	27-08-2003 03:30									#51
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So let's see...

The Bears won the Super Bowl in 1985
Myself, Ming, and Rah all ran out, got married and had kids. (work with me here, boys...)
The supposed "dynasty" Bears didn't win again, and they haven't won since.

So maybe it's our own fault...
If we sacrifice our marriages and our firstborn, do you think the curse will be lifted???

	27-08-2003 03:34									#52
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quote: Hey! Bears won a SuperBowl, the Vikes, oh yea, 0-4 Baby, they really suck!

At least they got to the Superbowl 4 times .

The Vikes did have some damned good teams during the 70s. They should have won one, but just choked in the big game.

	27-08-2003 03:40									#53
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quote: Originally posted by -Jrabbit So let's see... The Bears won the Super Bowl in 1985 Myself, Ming, and Rah all ran out, got married and had kids. (work with me here, boys...) The supposed "dynasty" Bears didn't win again, and they haven't won since. So maybe it's our own fault... If we sacrifice our marriages and our firstborn, do you think the curse will be lifted???

I had a friend who we wouldn't let watch the Bears, because every time he did, they lost. When he didn't, they won.

	27-08-2003 03:42									#54
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That sounds like me and the Devils .

Though I did watch a few games that they have won (especially Stanley Cup Final games ).

	28-08-2003 07:34									#55
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The Bears won in '63, but suffered two decades of BAD quarterbacking after Billy Wade retired until they got McMahon. They won the Superbowl with Jim and wold have won a couple more if he remained healthy during the playoffs. But since Jim left, the Bears have again been plagued with BAD quarterbacking with the exception of a couple of streaks when Miller was hot.

I always thought that Stewart was one of the worst quarterbacks in the league - separating Pittsburgh from possibly winning it all several times with fairly good teams. I can only imagine how he will stink up the field with an average to poor offense. The Bears are in trouble this year - no doubt about it.

This is not going to be a good years for Bears fans.

Why can't we ever solve this quarterback problem? Why?

	28-08-2003 08:33									#56
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How come pictures of Apolytoners invariably have the computer in the background?

	28-08-2003 09:11									#57
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quote: The Bears won in '63, but suffered two decades of BAD quarterbacking after Billy Wade retired until they got McMahon.

two decades? The Bears haven't had **** since Sid Luckman... McMahon? WTF are you smoking?

	28-08-2003 09:42									#58
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quote: But since Jim left, the Bears have again been plagued with BAD quarterbacking with the exception of a couple of streaks when Miller was hot.

Kramer was decent. Not good, but not bad either.

quote: McMahon? WTF are you smoking?

I think you'd have to say McMahon was at least average. He wasn't a BAD QB, just nothing too special.

	28-08-2003 10:11									#59
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quote: I think you'd have to say McMahon was at least average. He wasn't a BAD QB, just nothing too special.

He was like the Raven's Trent Dilfer...

Chicago's problem has to do with management and culture. How many Pro-Bowl WR's have we had in recent history? Marty Booker? And he's just a beneficiary of John Shoops endless stream of 2 yard dump passes... what?? Curtis Conway?? pfffft...

Look at a franchise like SF... Montana, Young, Garcia... Rice, Owens... they can find talent...

The Bears got lucky with Walter Payton... but other than Sweetness... name a franchise level player that the Bears have had in the past 2 or 3 decades? Brian Urlacher? He's a Pro-Bowl MLB, probably 2nd best to Ray Lewis, but he's wayyyyy overrated because he's a white boy. You think he'd get half the attention he's getting if he were black? If he were Gildon, Spikes, or Brooks? pfffft... he's the leading NFL Jersey seller because he's white. I love Urlacher and the Bears historically have had tough D, but he's not going to win anything unless you can put points on the board.

	28-08-2003 10:36									#60
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Of course I love Dilfer, so . But like I said, he wasn't 'bad'. He was average (and some years a little above average).

quote: You think he'd get half the attention he's getting if he were black?

Um... YES! Urlacher is an incredible linebacker, man! Outside of Ray Lewis name a better MLB? It has nothing to do with him being white.

quote: name a franchise level player that the Bears have had in the past 2 or 3 decades?

Btw, are you crazy, or did you just forget Mike Singletary? What about Richard Dent?