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st_swithin
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Nov 2002 time: 05:30
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I predict the Eagles are gonna win big this year. I mean, it's been, what, 40 years? It's about time.
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Sikander
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Boulder, Colorado, United Snakes of America
Jan 2000 time: 22:30
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quote: Originally posted by Sava
He was like the Raven's Trent Dilfer... 
Chicago's problem has to do with management and culture. How many Pro-Bowl WR's have we had in recent history? Marty Booker? And he's just a beneficiary of John Shoops endless stream of 2 yard dump passes... what?? Curtis Conway?? pfffft...
Look at a franchise like SF... Montana, Young, Garcia... Rice, Owens... they can find talent...
The Bears got lucky with Walter Payton... but other than Sweetness... name a franchise level player that the Bears have had in the past 2 or 3 decades? Brian Urlacher? He's a Pro-Bowl MLB, probably 2nd best to Ray Lewis, but he's wayyyyy overrated because he's a white boy. You think he'd get half the attention he's getting if he were black? If he were Gildon, Spikes, or Brooks? pfffft... he's the leading NFL Jersey seller because he's white. I love Urlacher and the Bears historically have had tough D, but he's not going to win anything unless you can put points on the board. |
What about **** Butkus? Probably the best football player I have ever seen.
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-Jrabbit
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of the Electronic Egyptians
Feb 2002 time: 23:30
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Lest we forget... Dan Hampton, perennial All-Pro at both DE and DT despite over a dozen operations.
quote: The Bears just got lucky with Payton |
What are YOU smoking??? Running back and MLB are the two positions where the Bears have a great history. Red Grange, Willie Gallimore (tragic early death), Sayers, Payton... The past ten years of NOT having a killer RB are by far the exception.
quote: McMahon? WTF are you smoking? |
No one ever claimed McMahon was a great passer. He was, however, the epitome of what a great QB is -- a LEADER and a WINNER. His poor health was difference between the late-80s Bears being a potential dynasty and just another decent playoff team.
Sure, a gun for an arm and 4.3 speed are nice. But if that's what made a QB, then Jeff George, Dan Pastorini, and Fran Tarkenton would be your all-time best (and would have won something). Namath was barely a 50% passer, Montana was not physically gifted. But they knew how to WIN.
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