26-08-2003 02:56									#1
	Turn 110 - 370 BC Remove this text

edited by the Consuls and Ministers.

Status:
- Republic
- Researching Engineering (32) 1 scientist.
- 245 gold. +32 gpt
- Slider at 9/0/1 tax/sci/lux


Urgent questions & tasks
Final plans for PoA to plunge into the ocean West of Equilibrium. Warrior WB moving to join her.


Unit Movement & Actions:

All units (excepting the DSA - Detached Sword Army… yes, I like acronyms ) in Army Group A/B (AGA/B) to remain (fortified) on the road tile 8 of Cuido where they can maintain the maximum mobility to deal with a GCA threat.

AGA/B contains: 3 vet Horseman, 9 vet Swordsmen (4 stationed north of the rest of AGA/B), 3 vet NMs, 1 elite Warrior, 1 regular Warrior (15 units)

G01 I. PoA moves 8-6-6.
G02 II. Expedition [Flash, Jagjef] moves 6-6-8 then uses FORTIFY ALL trick with the Swordsmen.

M01 I. moves 2-1-2 towards AGA/B.

S05 V. Hack moves 3; Heading back towards AGA/B.

N01 I. MerZenary moves 3-6 and fortifies on the hill; Will be used to watch for barbs in the north.
N04 IV. Togas moves 4 into Equilibrium.
N05 V. Enamel fortifies.
N08 VII. Moves towards AGA/B.

W02 II. BigFree moves 2-7 and fortifies (resumes scouting cycling).
W07 VII. WhiteBandit moves 4 towards the PoA launching point.
W12 XII. WWNN moves 1.

All other units to remain as they are.

Economy:
To be edited by MoI

WF:
To be edited by MoI

Workers:
Monkee & CalcII - move 9 to Banana 1-2 (WF #15), will clear & Road starting next turn.
Mark & Otto, Squid & Horse, Spink, Rush are all done but Frozen.
Move MrWIA, EVC and Dejon 2 to HoD 6-2 (WF #13). Will Road and Mine the Hill.
New Worker from Karina (should we name him Yang??) will start mining with Yin.
Yo will move 8-8-6 to Karina 3 (WF #4) and will start to clear next turn.


Diplomacy:
GCA: NAP in effect (to Turn 130).
CFC: NAP expired. New NAP proposed by CFC thru turn 117


Comment, please, many "plans" are just suggestions or ideas, not decisions already made.

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Note: keypad directions used for all except WF orders.

Discussion and basic reporting to follow. See the topped thread for comprehensive results

Last edited by E_T on 27-08-2003 at 09:13

	26-08-2003 18:55									#2
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quote: Final plans for PoA to plunge into the ocean West of Equilibrium

That would be the Pacific .

	27-08-2003 05:02									#3
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All units (excepting the DSA - Detached Sword Army… yes, I like acronyms ) in Army Group A/B (AGA/B) to remain (fortified) on the road tile 8 of Cuido where they can maintain the maximum mobility to deal with a GCA threat.

AGA/B contains: 3 vet Horseman, 9 vet Swordsmen (4 stationed north of the rest of AGA/B), 3 vet NMs, 1 elite Warrior, 1 regular Warrior (15 units)

G01 I. PoA moves 8-6-6.
G02 II. Expedition [Flash, Jagjef] moves 6-6-8 then uses FORTIFY ALL trick with the Swordsmen.

M01 I. moves 2-1-2 towards AGA/B.

S05 V. Hack moves 3; Heading back towards AGA/B.

N01 I. MerZenary moves 3-6 and fortifies on the hill; Will be used to watch for barbs in the north.
N04 IV. Togas moves 4 into Equilibrium.
N05 V. Enamel fortifies.
N08 VII. Moves towards AGA/B.

W02 II. BigFree moves 2-7 and fortifies (resumes scouting cycling).
W07 VII. WhiteBandit moves 4 towards the PoA launching point.
W12 XII. WWNN moves 1.

All other units to remain as they are.

	27-08-2003 09:52									#4
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Plan to get a Barracks out of Banana in 1 turn instead of 2:

The idea is to short rush 3 quick shields in Banana (12 gold) to get up to 30/40 shields on the Barracks. Banana is currently at 9 SPT, and if it has a mined tile to expand onto next turn when it gets up to size 7, it will go up to 10 SPT, filling in the last 10 and finishing the Barracks in one turn.

However, to do so we must have an open tile for Banana. This requires some WF shuffling in Hispanica and Apolyton.

Hisp should switch to WF 1, 2 and 3 (also allows 3 tiles for HoD size 3). Apolyton should switch to WF 4, 7, 8, 17, 18 and 19 (still using 2 hill tiles for 11 SPT). This leaves Banana 9 open to grow onto, giving us the 10 shields we need.

EDIT: slight edit by WIA as HoD was in place of Hisp

Last edited by MrWhereItsAt on 27-08-2003 at 10:04

	27-08-2003 14:53									#5
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Has this turn been played or not? There's a "turn 111" topped thread already.

	27-08-2003 15:41									#6
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Yes, it was played and sent along by nye; Poly was down and he didn't get a chance to post results yet. He asked me to post the next turn thread when and if Poly came back so as to not hold back the Minister's from putting in their orders.

	27-08-2003 16:27									#7
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Ah. Any interesting news from the save?

	27-08-2003 16:50									#8
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Hmm... not much change. A cleared jungle near Big Bend had a bonus shield. We have a Medieval Infantry and are about to have another next turn. One of GCA's cities (can't remember which) lost 2 pop (settler). We are still average vs GCA and strong vs CFC. There is a fortifed Elite Sword on the wheat East of Catcher in the Rye, and a Fortifed Vet Horse on the Hill 2 2 3 of Cuido.

That's it, IIRC.

	27-08-2003 17:38									#9
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Will GCA be able to tell we have Med.Inf.? I'm not sure how the Military Advisor works, but sometimes he says "the best unit the [Civ] have that we know of is the [UnitType]". I wonder if a unit of this type needs to have been spotted for this to happen.

If one of the border cities lost 2 pop, it may be time to investigate, since it is cheaper now.

Which city is "Catcher in the Rye"? Can't find it on the map.

edit: Ah, found it. It seems to be a renamed AllYouRBelongToUs.

	27-08-2003 20:12									#10
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Actually it was one of CFC's cities that dropped 2 pop for a Settler, not GCA.

I'm pretty sure they can tell we have MIs now...

	27-08-2003 22:25									#11
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Screenshot:



Barracks finishes next turn (not 2).

	28-08-2003 06:52									#12
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Thank you for posting a shot, Trip.

Unit Movement & Actions:
4 Swords fortify at Karina 8

G01 'AS Princess of Apolyton' moves 8 6 6
G02 'AS Expedition' [Flash, Jagjef] moves 6 9 9. Fortify all

M01 named 'Vlad' moves 2 1 2

S05 'Hack' moves 2

N01 'MerZenary' moves 3 6
N04 'Togas' moves 4
N05 'Enamel' fortifies
N09 renamed 'Numidian Master' moves 2 1 2

W02 'BigFree' moves 2 7. Fortifies
W12 'Warrior With No Name' moves 1
W08 'not_panag' moves 4 4 1
W07 'WhiteBandit' does not move, he will be escorted by Togas to the Expedition

All other units to remain as they are.


Economy:
Apolyton building mi. Changed to merc (2)
Mingapulco finished merc. Starts merc (3)
Banantopia building barracks (2; short rush to 30 shields for 12 gold, with growth barracks in 1)
Incensity building mi (2)
Tripoli building court house (15)
Equilibrium building walls (16)
Cuido de Alcohol building cat (18)
Hispanica building temple (4)
Possumopolis building cat (7)
Karina building cat (19)
LuxInvicta building cat (4)
Big Bend building worker (2)
BigFurryCity building to temple (4)
Heart of Darkness building catapult (2)

WF:
Apolyton changes to 4-7-8-17-18-19
Mingapulco NC
Banantopia NC
Incensity NC
Tripoli NC
Equilibrium scientist
Cuido de Alcohol NC
Hispanica change to 1-2-3
Possumopolis NC
Karina NC
LuxInvicta change to 1-13
Big Bend NC
BigFurryCity NC
Heart of Darkness change to 3-10

Workers:
Worker01: 'Dan' clearing (5) Big bend 6
Worker02: 'Monkee' moves 9
Worker03: 'panag' roading (2) Hisp 3
Worker04: 'EVC' moves 2
Worker05: 'Dejon' moves 2
Worker06: 'MrWIA' moves 2
Worker07: 'Rush' mining (1) Apolyton 7
Worker08: 'Yo' moves 8 8 6
Worker09: 'Calc II' moves 9
Worker10: 'Spink' roading (1) Hispanica 9
Worker11: 'Horse' clearing (1) Bananatopia 3
Worker12: 'Squid' clearing (1) Bananatopia 3
Worker13: 'Otto' clearing (1) Lux 3
Worker14: 'Mark' clearing (1) Lux 3
Worker15: 'Gits' clearing (5) Big bend 6
Worker16s: 'Farb' roading (5) Equilibrium 6
Worker17: 'Yin' mining (3) Cuido 4
Worker18: 'Lib' mining (3) Cuido 4

	28-08-2003 06:55									#13
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Posted to settle questions for vondrack, and for F11.

	28-08-2003 07:19									#14
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Here is a shot of what it looked like before Warrior BigFree finished his movement, when we could still see the Elite Sword East of Catcher in the Rye.

	28-08-2003 07:47									#15
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I just realised I miscounted before.

We build the fort where BigFree is in that shot, and then...

We can pop that elite sword with an MI on turn 1 of invasion... assuming they stay like that for the next 6 or more turns.

Also, if we cut the road at Cuido 2 1, then nothing they have can squirt by the fort into our land so easily.

	28-08-2003 08:05									#16
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If we build that Fort 2-2 from Cuido; the tile that is 2-1 from Cuido will be in our territory; I'm pretty sure.

	28-08-2003 08:07									#17
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NYE: I think the plan was to build the Fort at 2-2 all along...

quote: Originally posted by BigFree If we build that Fort 2-2 from Cuido; the tile that is 2-1 from Cuido will be in our territory; I'm pretty sure.

That's correct.

Once the fort is built there's no way GCA can use the roads without attacking and capturing/destroying our city 2-2 from Cuido.

	28-08-2003 11:58									#18
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Hold on. Are you thinking about a Fort, or a City on the tile S-S of Cuido?

	28-08-2003 12:00									#19
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BFM, we are calling the city a fort.

	28-08-2003 12:01									#20
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A city. It's been termed, "The Fort" or Fort City...

E_T

	28-08-2003 12:10									#21
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither BFM, we are calling the city a fort.

Ah, thanks (E_T, too). You were confusing me there for a moment, though.

	28-08-2003 12:17									#22
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I say we call it "The Fort."

	28-08-2003 12:47									#23
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Fort Apache

	28-08-2003 13:18									#24
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I remeber a movie, I think with Charles Bronson, called "Fort Apache: The Bronx" It was about a Police Station in a bad neighborhood being overrun by bad guys.

How about "Fort Night"

	28-08-2003 14:31									#25
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How about "Deep Fort"? (thank you, I'll be here all night!)

	28-08-2003 19:35									#26
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Fort Apolytonia!

	28-08-2003 20:08									#27
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"Insta-Fortress"
"Fort Banana"

	28-08-2003 22:38									#28
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"Watchout!" or "Thebeginingoftheofyourdemise" or simply "The Begining"

E_T

	29-08-2003 02:28									#29
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May I propose from Edgar Allen Poe:

The odds of GCA ever coming back, and the name of our Fort city, the ominous, dark, and short:

Nevermore.

Hey, how's that for a name, let's give a big hand to Friedrich's name, woo hoo!

(My lame attempt at getting a city named how I want it named for once. Hehe.)

	29-08-2003 03:28									#30
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"Nevermore" sounds great! I second that selection.